Where's the Smoke - The Chelsea Youth and Reserve Thread

fernb8 · May 8, 2012

http://thechels.net/2012/05/the-loan-report-april-30-may-7/

loan update

adri · May 9, 2012

youth cup final 2nd leg coming up, two changes to the team, Nkumu & A.Gordon starting in place of Ake & Nditi.

Andy F · May 9, 2012

http://www.sportlemon.tv/wv-4/0/68/v-406875.html

Youth Cup stream

I dont like this new layout. Names too low. And how do i turn off avatars, couldn't work out how.

adri · May 9, 2012

Scrappy game but still, CHELSEA WIN THE FA YOUTH CUP!!!

fernb8 · May 9, 2012

yawn

another trophy

well done lads, well done

yasik19 · May 9, 2012

So we're 3 for 3 in FA Cups this season.

fernb8 · May 9, 2012

http://www.ciderspace.co.uk/ASP/news/news.asp?NewsItemId=17254

as reported- Sam Walker made a good impression on his loan spell

slipereypete · May 10, 2012

via various bits of media, George Saville is training with the first team

BlueRebelZ · May 10, 2012

Loads of them train with first team, Nathan Ake does so. I guess some will get minutes vs Chickens. Wanted Bamford to play, lad is a true no 9 & if developed properly England will have a smashing player.

slipereypete · May 10, 2012

Piazon named YPOTY

adri · May 10, 2012

slipereypete said: ↑

Piazon named YPOTY
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Good for him, he's had a great short season with the team. Would love to see him get a cameo vs blackburn.

Dtrip77 · May 10, 2012

adri said: ↑

Good for him, he's had a great short season with the team. Would love to see him get a cameo vs blackburn.
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was gonna say the same thing.... should at least get the last 20min if anything

slipereypete · May 11, 2012

Kalas on his future...

It's important for a young player to get plenty of playing time. At clubs such as Chelsea, Manchester United and Bayern Munich, you don't get much first-team action at my age, but my time will come. I'm convinced of that. I'm only 18 and still have plenty to learn at Vitesse. >It's 99.9 per cent sure that I will stay here. The parties involved have yet to reach an agreement, but I expect to stay at Vitesse. I know that a new coach will arrive at Chelsea, but I'm very happy here. Returning to Chelsea wouldn't make much sense at this point. Other teams from England have also approached me, but the offers I received weren't good enough. I don't think someone should make that step until you're ready for it. I'm not at that point yet.My biggest dream is to return to Chelsea at one point, and to take over John Terry's role at the club. I still have a long way to go, though. I don't want to be exactly like Terry, but it would be great if I could become a first team regular at Chelsea, and even wear the captain armband.
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http://www.goal.com/en/news/596/exc...t-to-emulate-john-terry-but-im-not-ready-for?

fernb8 · May 11, 2012

really like Kalas

sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders

Dear_Claudio · May 13, 2012

"I know that a new coach will arrive at Chelsea."

BlueRebelZ · May 13, 2012

Rhys Taylor left Chelsea yesterday.

fernb8 · May 14, 2012

http://thechels.net/2012/05/the-loan-report-may-8-13/

loan update

slipereypete · May 15, 2012

fernb8 said: ↑

my understanding is that the club wants to "assess" him ahead of next season

to me it sounds as if they want to see him in person and determine the best course of his future whether that is loaning him out to continue along the path of trying to obtian a work permit or just to see if the lad is even close to competing for a spot within the team
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here he be

Blueallthru · May 15, 2012

Any chance Hutchinson plays more of a role next season? What is the opinion on his long term viability as a RB for us?

By all accounts, Piazon is the most likely to break through either next year or the following. Bruma would like to go elsewhere. Bertrand is ahead of van Aanholt. Plus Bertrand has really done well this year. de Bruyne is as good as they come in terms of 21 year olds. I just can't see him not on the Stamford Bridge pitch next season. Courtois should stay at Athletico but he's our future number if Cech starts to degress. Don't think that McEchearn has a future here, I could be wrong, and hope that I am, but he'll be loaned out next season.

BlueRebelZ · May 16, 2012

*Spoiler Alert*
BIG Lucas Piazon interview; First part:

Champion and awarded, Piazon celebrates success at Chelsea, 'More complete'.
Voted best of the young season with only eight months of the club, back to the attacker puts Selection and between professional debut as the next objective.

The soft-spoken and quiet stance could be seen as signs of timidity, but the word that best defines the moment of Lucas Piazon is maturity. With only 18 years old, the young man who left the St. Paul a year ago with the status of new Kaka did not need much time in England to show that has its own identity and personality to write their own history in world football. In just over eight months at Chelsea, has not yet debuted among professionals, but paved the way to achieve success at a club that, although accustomed to spend millions on medallions, did not miss the opportunity to invest in Brazilian talent.

Bought in Sao Paulo for $ 15 million after outstanding performances in the youth of the Brazilian, Piazon exchanged anxiety to integrate professional after completing his majority in January, by the desire to seize the opportunity to defend the reservation and Sub-teams 18. Shot. If the goal was to facilitate adaptation to English football, he went further and received from the hands of John Terry named best young Chelsea in the season awards held last Thursday at Stamford Bridge. Done that, along with three goals and six assists on the campaign title FA Cup U-18, providing a sense of accomplishment and sure to be on the right track:

- Today I am a more complete player - celebrated player GLOBOESPORTE.COM in an exclusive interview at his home in Kingston, southwest London.
For the success and immediate adaptation, Piazon used a simple recipe, which included a big dose of support from family, who moved across to the English capital, but which has as its main ingredient the dedication.

- You have to leave much of the player. If you want, you can. It is a difficult thing. You need to put in his head that is possible. It is not something that has to be worked technically, it's just positioning, restoration, occupy that space forever.
During the chat on the banks of the River Thames, is the former Pauline also spoke of the expectation by opening up the team (he was already in the bank three times), the contact with the stars who until recently could only see on television, the wanted to return to the Brazilian national team, the harassment of fans and calendar of holidays in Brazil, whose commitments untouchable stroking grandparents Cida, Anibela and Humberto, who complete birthday within the Parana.

The last week was special for you: title, call for premium and core team. When you arrived here in London on September 5, thought to finish the season so high so that all of that so certain?

- When I arrived, was still in doubt if he was going to play before making 18 or not. I stayed until the end of this November and then I could play. I started at U-18 in reserves and continued so until the end of the season. I think it all turned out good for me. Chelsea had prepared me very well, always put me to play, regardless of team B or U-18. Every week I was in the field. This was important for my adaptation. Tactically easier to get experience, to adapt the marking, positioning ... All this was very important. After these nine months, I am a more complete player.

Many people come to Europe and has a hard time adapting. With you, everything happened very naturally. In addition to full support of Chelsea, how did you prepare to make things easier?

- From the moment I knew the interest of Chelsea, tried to watch more English football, pay attention to the style of play. Another thing that helped me a lot was that the U-17 in Sao Paulo played with three strikers, in the same formation used here. Zé Sérgio (coach) I already went over this function to mark the lateral positioning ... Logical that in Brazil I had more freedom to switch sides and stuff, but the question mark I was already spending more. It was something that helped me a lot. Have to leave much of the player. If you want, you can. It is a difficult thing. You need to put in his head that is possible. It is not something that has to be worked technically, it's just positioning, restoration, occupy that space forever. Some take more, some less, but always ends up taking.

In this whole process, which was the hardest time?

- Off the field, was never a problem, a difficulty. When I arrived I always had the support of the Brazilian (David Luiz, Ramires and Alex) and the club. So it was never complicated. But when I started playing with older, had a little difficulty. With the U-18, no, but the older I thought, "Wow, it really is harder to play here." On the question of contact, the markup I gave a soft, some wandering, but is now calmer. I'm more relaxed, more confident. It's great.
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BlueRebelZ · May 16, 2012

Second part:

When you came to see themselves as different from a player who came from Brazil, is physically, technically or tactically? When she felt ready to be more natural and stop worrying about these issues in order to use the technique that brought him to Chelsea?

- Sometimes the game is that I am very concerned about the mark, with tactics such thing as English football, and they tell me: "We want to do this role, which he engages, engaged, but never lose your talent Brazilian go up, dribble, put a ball. If we wanted English player, buy it right here. " So whenever my team without the ball is very try scoring run to retrieve the ball, and when we ever get to play the ball as he did in Brazil: going up, always forward, toward the goal. Not much eye candy. I try to do one-two, put a ball, giving a jolt ...

And this achievement FA Cup U-18? I wanted you to talk this way for both the club and for you, this ball rolling, as it was important?

- When I arrived I did not know the importance of this championship. But the boys were telling me and is like the Copa Sao Paulo for the Brazilian. It is very important. Pass on TV, played in stadiums for clubs ... It was a campaign suffered. We won two games in the shootout. Then against West Ham, send the whole game, suffered a goal in the second half and 44 to 45 empatamos. And still had against Nottingham Forrest, who left behind by 3-0 and turned. It was great for us. Everyone is very happy. It's been an excellent season finale.

Do you think it makes the path to the professional team next season?

- Influence, yes. A title is always good for those coming from below. When you're champion, look in a different way. It was very, very good. Hopefully next season I fully integrate the first time. Should I go with the group for pre-season in the United States and want to continue, play some games. Hopefully it will be as good as it was this year.

And this individual achievement? It was something that surprised you? You received the trophy from the hands of Terry, what was the impact with the stars?

- On Saturday, when I got to train the team up, they told me: "Gee, here eight months ago and has won such an award." They gave me congratulations. It was cool. They also find it very difficult for Brazil to get here so fast and win a prize as well. To me, it's been great.

You find yourself ready to act in the team up? If you need to take the field now, are you ready?

- Anxiety will always exist. To play 15, 30 minutes, I'm ready. For 90, I think not. I need a little more experience, contact with them, training, rapport, trust ... But to play 15, 10 minutes, you can already premiered.

And as has been the dialogue with Di Matteo for this to happen, the contact between you?

- Since the time of André Villas-Boas was great contact with Di Matteo, he always joked, talked ... The exchange of technical not changed much. Because, you work very much with us is Chelsea, the club is, this is the methodology. To bring the youth to professional. In recent months, I knew that the more experienced players would be used until the Champions League and the important games.

Be borrowed to get experience would be a good option in your opinion? There is something to that effect?

- This was never the interest of Chelsea. They made it clear that they want me to stay. Nor is it my will. It is best to stay. The club has a project for me. It has nothing to do.
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BlueRebelZ · May 16, 2012

Third part:

How has this been your contact with the professional team? I imagine that many of the players were idols for you even in early adolescence?

- In addition to Brazil, have much contact with the Portuguese, the Spaniards also, Torres and Mata always play. Even the English. We're nearby, Lampard, Terry ... It's been wonderful. It's all very different. Now, it has been even more natural, but I was still looking when one went, the other, watching.

The presence of Ramires, and especially David, by way of being, facilitated the arrival of a new Brazilian in this environment?

- Brazil is well represented in the group. Ramires and David are great people. Perhaps here in Europe have the idea that the Brazilian is half bad boy, but both have proven otherwise. It has been very good. Personally, I am also very dear to the club, people like me, and this weather makes it much easier for fun. The club is very quiet. The timing is pretty cool.

Have you talked to do not bother, but does not agree with the comparisons made in the times of St. Paul with Kaka. So you want to point out some references that you have in your career.

- I always changed. Each week was an idol, like every week a player was a fan. Are many. I really like watching football. Spanish, Italian, English ... I see what players are good and try to catch me. There is a guy I look and talk: "This is my idol, I want to be like him." No. I want to be myself. I want to be a great player and try to get the best of each.

Next year is the World Under-20 and many of his friends who competed in the FIFA U-17 last year, have already been summoned by Ney Franco, with adryan and Ademilson. These titles won by Chelsea shorten the path to a return? Already miss back to wear this shirt?

- I'm not being seen there. The boys are always on display. Ademilson and adryan are my amigões. To others, a 93, which were not called and I know have been summoned. I'm happy for them. Ademilson is a guy I really like, it is my partner. The adryan also played together since small. Surely I have the desire to play the World and South American U-20. I love the atmosphere of the Farm. To be there, train, have fun, play ping-pong, video game ... Was very happy to be summoned to be with them. The atmosphere is really cool, exciting.
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BlueRebelZ · May 16, 2012

Final part:

Will send some videos of Chelsea TV for Ney Franco?
- (Laughs) I am calm. I'm away, but to the World and South American still has a long time. If it go, I'll felizão, stoked. I wear a hopscotch with all joy in the world. If not, I hope very much the same way.

How has your life in London? You have lived with the whole family, it helps a lot ...

- You are great. I train early, come home each 14h, come home and have lunch ETA at the table with rice, beans ... Sometimes I go out to dinner with David (Luiz) and Rami (res), which is also a cool program over there to central London. I try to take the family out to learn about restaurants, shopping. It is a very good life, quiet, with much peace. Is everybody happy.

What is the schedule for the holidays? Go to Brazil?

- I will. I get 23 days and I'll see what I do. First, I am in Sao Paulo and then go to Curitiba with my father, my grandparents' anniversary is in the interior of Paraná and have to go there. It will be nice. Long time no see everybody. I hope to make enough.

To close, besides football, you have a large fan club, especially among girls. How do you deal with it, already has a lot of harassment here in England too?

- Here again is not very big, but always at the output of CT to have a personal, photo calls. They show a great affection for me, the English also, little boys shorties ... Even the kids who play at Club 12, 13 years always makes the biggest party when you see me, speaking of Brazil. That's pretty cool, the affection is very big on Twitter, especially after games. The crowd supports enough.
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fernb8 · May 16, 2012

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Any chance Hutchinson plays more of a role next season? What is the opinion on his long term viability as a RB for us?

By all accounts, Piazon is the most likely to break through either next year or the following. Bruma would like to go elsewhere. Bertrand is ahead of van Aanholt. Plus Bertrand has really done well this year. de Bruyne is as good as they come in terms of 21 year olds. I just can't see him not on the Stamford Bridge pitch next season. Courtois should stay at Athletico but he's our future number if Cech starts to degress. Don't think that McEchearn has a future here, I could be wrong, and hope that I am, but he'll be loaned out next season.
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I think the future of Hutch depends on whether or not we sign a RB this summer. If we do then I suspect he will stay on as the cover for the postion with Ivan and the new RB being the primary candidates while Paulo moves on. Hutch could fill a homegrown position while featuring in the occasional match.

Piazon still has a way to go imo. He looks good going forward but needs to work on the other end of things and I think a few too many are getting over exciting about his showing in youth and Reserve football where the pace is remarkably slower than in the Prem.

I supsect Bruma returns to the Continent where he will eventually make a permanent move and PVA goes out on loan again- which he desperately needs.

Hopefully KDB will get a good look in as he deserves it and can fill a needed role for us. Coutrious should get another year of experience before possibly playing a season in the Prem on loan and then fighting for the gloves and I think Josh should look for another loan before any definitive statements are made on him.

Ninjatend0 · May 16, 2012

where do we think KDB's future position is at the club? i know he plays wide left, but has impressed in the middle. i can't help but think he could possibly help to alleviate Lamps a little. could he be a box-to-box type guy? his range of passing and reading of the game seem to be great.