WCQ: Mexico vs Jamaica 02/06/13

Discussion in 'Mexico National Team' started by Overachiever, Jan 31, 2013.

  1. ...In my defense

    Feb 11, 2006
    I saw him take on defenders quite a few times during the first half and win a bunch of those 1v1 battles. It was surprising since Guardado usually shies away from 1v1 duels.

    The only problem was that once he got past his man, the last pass was either too heavy or was intercepted by the Jamaicans.

    The real issue is how the FMF will handle the Maza incident.

    Ricardo Peleaz and Miguel Herrera have already echoed Maza's "excuse", which is frankly bullshit.

    The FMF has punished a lot of players for lack of discipline and while this incident doesn't really compare to Quitogate, it certainly needs to be addressed.

    This is the captain for f*cks sake.

    Fine him and don't call him up for the next game.
     
  2. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Then we should probably play our home games at high noon!

    We don`t need it to qualify but its a good advantage.
     
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  3. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

    he better not!
     
  4. Wiso

    Wiso Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    Phoenix
    Club:
    Club León
    It all comes down to Chepo, he was overconfident from the start. I ask.. If the Denmark game was a practice, a game to learn, what did he do differently? it obviously didn't work in Phoenix. In fact, the only that worked in phoenix was Fabian coming in for the striker and taking out the 442.

    Chepo wants the 442 system to work, And it will, but not against these types of teams. it works well against teams that fight for possession or just horrible teams that can't defend.

    From what i hear he wasn't happy with gio on the right, that's why he took him out. But what can Gio do, send crosses? that's not his style. He was later moved towards the middle but it was too crowded with peralta trying to make something work. It was a mess

    Aquino did better because that what he does best. run with the ball down the flank and pass the ball. hopefully he doesn't get the venado 2.0 disease.

    As for guardado moving to DM, another mess. He needs to see there is a left white line next to him to feel confident. He can't create plays in the middle Nor defend. Almost like salcido..

    When he finally realized nothing was working he sent fabian to play behind.. really behind. He looked like a defender during free kicks and didn't have a real shot on goal.

    Chepo.. it didn't work against the US. it didn't work against Denmark.. and it wont work on tall concacaf teams. By the looks of it, we are the smallest team this time around.

    Hopefully Honduras can come out Fighting like they did against the US.. I think we can dominate.
     
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  5. jrinsd19

    jrinsd19 Member+

    Sep 1, 2005
    Club:
    CF Indios de Ciudad Juárez
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    stopped reading after that
     
  6. jrinsd19

    jrinsd19 Member+

    Sep 1, 2005
    Club:
    CF Indios de Ciudad Juárez
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Salcido disagrees
     
  7. Wiso

    Wiso Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    Phoenix
    Club:
    Club León
    An torres Nilo apparently also.. Ja
     
  8. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    Guardado and the rest of the euros played on saturday and sunday, took a long flight, barely practiced and thus it's not surprising they didn't shine. I said it prior to the game. It's the problem of the hex in CONCACAF and having to have qualifiers on FIFA friendly dates where the clubs only release the players 3 days before and not 5. You have the altitude also. Still the problem is that it was MFL players (2 of which Azteca is their club home field) who sucked the most.
     
  9. Rebaño_Sagrado

    Rebaño_Sagrado Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Home
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    The team stunk it up but the majority of the squad plays in altitude, with the rest visiting high altitude regions for away games, so its not an issue for us as for visiting teams. And only 4 flying across the pond, although Gio is the most important.
     
  10. Regulus Tera

    Regulus Tera Member+

    None
    Mexico
    Sep 10, 2012
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    You can send him to us if you are that mad.
     
  11. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    You keep misreading my posts. I said the altitude and the low time acclimating would have explained why some euros didn't play well but that the problem was that the MFL players sucked the most.
     
  12. Swag Flu

    Swag Flu Member+

    Sep 11, 2008
    Lo$ $candalou$
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Ole! Ole! OLE! Get rid of the damn 4-4-2, Salcido, and AGUAlar at rb. We should see improved results from these changes.
     
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  13. ax77

    ax77 Member+

    Mar 12, 2011
    SF Bay Area
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I'm pretty sure that game was on a weekend
     
  14. Lalo37

    Lalo37 Member+

    Jan 29, 2010
    Minneapolis, MN
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    It was on a Wednesday.
     
  15. ax77

    ax77 Member+

    Mar 12, 2011
    SF Bay Area
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

    ahh I stand corrected. How the heck did I watch it. I must have played hookey from work.
     
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  16. Overachiever

    Overachiever Member+

    Nov 18, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    as in stop bringing in random old guys like Arce, Sinha, Reyna, DeNigris, and Luis Perez
     
  17. ...In my defense

    Feb 11, 2006
    The US - Mexico game in 09 was midweek.

    wednesday afternoon if i'm not mistaken
     
  18. Pirru

    Pirru Member+

    Sep 21, 2004
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Maza should not be our captain.

    We went from Marquez to Maza.


    Salcido will probably be our captain.

    Estamos jodidos.
     
  19. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    Salcido turned down the captaincy for the olympic team. So much for his so called leadership.
     
  20. Pirru

    Pirru Member+

    Sep 21, 2004
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    I would make Moreno captain.
     
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  21. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  22. Talisman

    Talisman Member+

    Aug 5, 2011
    Stamford, CT
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  23. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    he and Guardado would be my picks for captain

    and eventually later on i think Chicharo might be captain. he's shown some signs of leadership in games.
     
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  24. Wiso

    Wiso Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    Phoenix
    Club:
    Club León
    remember Cheech in the gold cup final after our first goal? that's a leader
     
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  25. ipaman

    ipaman Member+

    Apr 5, 2004
    HOUSTON, TX
    did you see the drop ball against Jamaica when peralta had the headbutt??? the whole team was sleep walking back to goal and walking back. cheech was screaming like crazy for the team to get ready to take the drop ball right out side the Jamaica box. he was screaming and waving the team to come back and get ready.

    eventually the jamacian goalie did the fair play thing and kicked it back to us so the drop ball never happened but when i saw that i said that is a player who's head is in the game and a leader.

    -edit- i should mention maza was one of the ones walking back with his head down not paying attention...
     
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