was Libertadores 2013 (2a parte) -- now bengala incident, etc

Ya que el otro topic fue cerrado, continuamos acá:

Martes 19:
Peñarol-Emelec
Olimpia-Univ.de Chile
Millonarios-Tijuana
Toluca-Nacional

Miércoles 20:
Fluminense-Gremio
Vélez Sarsfield-Iquique
San José-Corinthians
Huachipato-Caracas

Jueves 21:
Cerro Porteño-Real Garcilaso
Tigre-Libertad
Dep.Lara-Newell's old boys
Santa Fe-Tolima

Bolded are the matches I'm going to pay attention to.

Toluca can get a huge advantage if it defeats Nacional at home. That would leave Nacional with 1 point in 2 matches - it could be alarming for them.

The RJ vs. Porto Alegre confrontion in Rio - Fluminense has 3 points, Gremio has none. Gremio now has to win, and while the reigning Brazilian champions are favorites, don't underestimate Gremio. Gremio does after all have Barcos, Vargas, Z. Roberto, Elano, Dida, and they'll be hungry.

Vélez Sarsfield is the defending champion of Argentina's league, and they were beaten in their opener at Emelec last week. I'm certain Gareca's players will do what they must to get 3 points against Iquique, and at home, they should be able to do it. I should not be surprised by any upsets regarding traditional teams after how Boca lost at home last week, but I have a feeling Vélez will pull it off.

Corinthians debuts. 10 of the 11 men who defeated Chelsea drew against Palmeiras this past Sunday. Corinthians had more game volume and hit the woodwork, but Palmeiras actually went up 2-1 at one point, until Romarinho - he who gave Corinthians a draw in the first leg of last year's Libertadores - struck for them. Corinthians can take the 3 points back to Brazil - but will they?

I am still nervous for my team, we still have loads of injured starters, and now fatigue is becoming an issue. Hopefully we can get this fixed in time to perform well in the Libertadores. Olimpia is a good team but I think we should be able to steal a point or maybe even win.

I'd add that Franco's approach/style has not been fully assimilated by the squad: saw the 2nd half vs Everton this weekend, and la U's attack looked really disjointed, imo.

Huachipato's defeat of big-pocketed Gremio has been cheered around the world by true football fans, who are disillusioned with big teams literally buying cups, either by massive spending, or by just buying the refs and other teams.

From the BBC article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21496660

I bet he will complain about how a Brazilian team bought out the ref when they win this tournament again. Gonna love his double standards.

#TwoTimesTimao

Corinthians is on paper good enough to reach at the very least the semifinals. I wouldn't be surprised if they get there and meet another Brazilian. The one Brazilian team that looks strong enough right now to oust them is Fluminense. But if somehow Palmeiras appears in Corinthians' knockout round path and eliminates Corinthians - don't be surprised. They did this in 1999 and in 2000, both times on PKs, and the latter was when Corinthians had an impressive roster with many very good players. That's the case in 2013 - yesterday's draw showed that these Palmeiras players, a lunch-bucket, blue-collar group, are going to go all out because they've got nothing to lose and a lot to prove.

I don't read too much into Paulistao results. Unfortunately thats the only time we'll be seeing this season.

Indeed. Rivalry aside, Palmeiras is a GRANDE of Brazilian soccer. I have no doubt it'll be in the 2014 Brasileirão. I will applaud Palmeiras' every win in the 2013 Libertadores (except if SPFC is the opponent).

21h30 Olimpia-PAR x Universidad de Chile-CHI

'My match' today. Information on both teams? Lineup, style...

Universidad de Chile formaría con
Johnny Herrera; Paulo Magalhaes, José Rojas, Albert Acevedo, Sergio Velázquez; Sebastián Martínez, Charles Aránguiz, Ramón Fernández, Gustavo Lorenzetti; Sebastián Ubilla y César Cortés.

Team is still getting adapted to Franco´s style. We tied last game vs Everton in the chilean league. We also have 4 starters and some backups who always play injured. Despite that, the team is still offensive and tends to leave some space at the back, which vs a Paraguayan team could be costly.

Thanks. I read an analysis that Franco's tactics usually assemble a more defensive than the Sampaoli. The beautiful campaign in Copa Sudamericana 2011 is still remembered, so always expected that La U play great football. Ubilla is also seen as a good talent and would like to see more of his stuff plus some compilations on YouTube.

The other games will be broadcast on television, but I will watch this match. Olimpia needs the victory and I have curiosity to see how the Universidad de Chile are playing.

Since I am here in the US... priority is going to the mexican match ups.

Although, I am looking forward to seeing Tijuana play. They have some interesting, young, players 2 that play for the USA. I will be rooting for them as a result.

Millionarios look REALLY good though... and have made some strong additions in the off seasson. I am looking close at Ex Seattle Sounders Fredy Montero who is scoring pretty easily back home. His goal is to use the libertadores to find a way to europe. Hew as one of the MLS star players... and for good reason. Amazing talent!

I wouldnt say he is more defensive, just not as direct, likes to hold possesion a bit more. With Sampaoli it was get the ball go straight forward fast. In fact, one of the main criticism la U is getting is that it is leaving too much space at the back cause the whole team is attacking. As for Ubilla, he is just starting to perform well, first season playing as starter. Personally the potentially best player we have is Martinez, an U20 from the youth setup. Wont last long in Chile.

The game needs to be suspended and investigated. Or Emelec needs to leave. They have more than enough grounds.

Once again...

Really... what else is new?

Think about the teams that have the hinchas hassle them all night outside of their hotel to not let them sleep well.... It sucks...but that's the realities of our futbol. It's the MOST passionate for good and for bad.

The Sheraton is a 5 star hotel. They have tested their food and it is fine. Emelec has not even filed a formal complaint against the hotel. We have played way more important games in the recent past and nothing has hapenned. Why would we poison Emelec in a 1st round game? This whole thing seems fishy to me

Jugando el 2° tiempo:

Peñarol 1 Emelec 0
Gol de Juan Olivera.

Terminado:

Peñarol 1 Emelec 0
Gol de Juan Olivera.

1. Peñarol 6
2. Emelec 3
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3. Iquique 0 -1 1g
4. Vélez Sarsfield 0 -1 0g

6 ecuatorianos con diarrea en Montevideo.... y eso que tiene de extraño?

Dario Rodriguez, no te mueras nunca!

Y bueno, no se les notó nada raro a los del equipo ecuatoriano durante el partido. ¡Qué habrá sido!

Comienzo malhadado de Franco: Olimpia los madrugó. 1-0, gol en el primer minuto del primer tiempo.

Olimpia 2x0. Was foul in Herrera