I have no dog in this fight, and even if the match was re-played, the USMNT would defeat Costa Rica. I saw the weather conditions and it was not an ordinary match. There may be a case here to at least punish the referees. I think that the match should've been postponed.
yeah, my point was it doesn't matter what we think (as I agree with you) in this case it is a matter of were the playing conditions illegal and I don't think the answer is yes.
They want to replay what was probably the best argument against those ********s that call soccer a p**** sport? That makes sense.
i think you can make an argument that the markings not being visible is suffient. heck, its hard enough to ref a game on a clear day. i can only imagine what its like to determine whether something is a goal or corner kick when the lines are not visible. the good news is that i don't think there was a wrong call due to visibility in the game and that's why it shouldn't be replayed, but i think its suffient to prove that the game should of not been played in the first place.
First half the markings were fine. So delay the second half and plow it. Ref thought it was OK to see. This is all a bitchfest about nothing and the usual soccer nerds and their "laws of the game" citations. Crap gets thrown on US players all the time and I don't see other nations' fans complain. Batteries flying at players is a lot more dangerous than an obscured touch line.
Given how many extracurriculars the Ticos got away with because the refs had poor visibility, and there were "fouls" against the US on damn near every American corner kick, I find it really hard to believe the visitors didn't benefit from the snow. One a clean field, they would have finished that game with 9 men, even with a Central American officiating crew.
guilty as charged! but "you don't want the truth because deep down in places that you don't talk about at tailgates, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall."
Ticos would keep their mouth shut unless you are talking about the US then its their fault for not taking advantage can't complain about that. Not that hard to say much. But logic changes per results so... Can't say.
They didn't. It's a moot point. You might as well tell me about how Brazil wouldn't have won those World Cups without Pelé or how well Mexico would have done in 1990.
Actually looks like it should be. From various sources on twitter, Clint Dempsey confirms that there was no protest from Costa Rica's captain after the match, a requirement to file a protest to FIFA.
Not to change the subject, but this is a really good video with Borgetti and Lalas about tomorrow's game at Azteca. It's from ESPN Deportes. http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/videohub/video/clipDeportes?id=1756665&cc=3888
And back to the Costa Rica game, the conditions affected both teams equally. The US was hoping for cold weather, they thought that might be to their advantage, but once the snow started to fall neither team had an advantage. And the lines were clearly visible at all times and never mattered during the game. I really thought both teams played remarkably well given the conditions. The game should not be replayed.
I meant specifically asking whether the US would react differently if they had lost. It'll be interesting to follow the appeal, but whether the US actually would have challenged the result is meaningless for two reasons. The US did not lose, and if FIFA asks about the hypothetical you proposed, Jurgen (or whoever is asked) will just say that the conditions were adequate and the result has no effect on USSF's opinion. There's no way to really prove otherwise.
I find it silly watching Jorge Ramos y us Banda talking about the "beautiful" game etc. when you have people involved in fix games...
yup and that's all i'm debating here, ineptitude of the CONCACAF official and the ref. for those who missed it in my earlier posts, i do NOT want this game replayed. i thought Bill Archer had a good take. i've seen some of these "officials" in action at the buffet line in press boxes before. https://www.bigsoccer.com/soccer/bil...rious-costa-rica-will-ask-fifa-for-a-do-over/ of course, i also have a low opinion on Joel Aguilar since i eyewitnessed his Mexico-Panama debacle/riot in Houston first-hand. dude get's over his head very easily.
That was the guy reffing that game? That was such a trip. One of my favorite games I've ever attended...in that car crash sorta way.
If they do replay this game (they won't) they damn well better leave Brad Davis and every Houston Dynamo player out of it.
You could, but you would need to argue successfully that the lines were not visible, and then very likely have to prove it created an issue at some point. From the TV angle, while it got bad in the second half, I could always see the lines or at least the shovel marks which conceivably were directly over the lines. Also, I don't remember when there was an issue with visibility, lines included. Listen, I think it should have been called before the game based on the forecast and the fact the snow had started. I also think it should have been abandoned in the second half. But it wasn't, and as a question of legal playing conditions I think CR would have an issue proving the point considering the lack of controversy and the fact the referee team will likely state they could see just fine.