News: USL-Pro News 2014

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  1. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
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    United States
    USL PRO Expands to Colorado Springs
    Franchise, owned by Ragain Sports, to kick off in 2015
    Thursday, December 5, 2013
    uslsoccer.com

    This part was news to me:
    The death of the MLS Reserve League, apparently.

    Looks like they are folding 2 teams next year:
    VSI Tampa Bay FC
    Antigua Barracuda FC

    which will be replaced by two expansion teams in 2014:
    Oklahoma City Energy FC
    Sacramento Republic FC

    keeping the league at 13 teams. In 2015, they lose Orlando to MLS, and add Colorado Springs, so eight MLS teams (21-13) will need to either field reserve teams in USL-Pro, or share affiliates.
     
  2. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
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    Cross-post:

    Columbus Crew announce affiliation with USL PRO's Dayton Dutch Lions
    December 19, 2013
    MLSsoccer staff
    MLSsoccer.com

    This brings it up to six:
    New England Revolution -> Rochester Rhinos
    Sporting Kansas City -> Orlando City
    Philadelphia Union -> Harrisburg City Islanders
    DC United -> Richmond Kickers

    2014
    Houston Dynamo -> Pittsburgh Riverhounds
    Columbus Crew -> Dayton Dutch Lions
     
  3. NFLPatriot

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  4. NFLPatriot

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  5. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
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  6. NFLPatriot

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    Foxboro, MA
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    A similar article was posted in another thread, but it's applicable here as well.

    LA Galaxy announce they will form their own USL PRO franchise named LA Galaxy II
    January 29, 2014
    MLSsoccer staff
    MLSsoccer.com

    MLS Affiliates with USL-PRO
    2013
    New England Revolution -> Rochester Rhinos
    Sporting Kansas City -> Orlando City
    Philadelphia Union -> Harrisburg City Islanders
    DC United -> Richmond Kickers

    2014
    Houston Dynamo -> Pittsburgh Riverhounds
    Columbus Crew -> Dayton Dutch Lions
    Toronto FC -> Wilmington Hammerheads
    San Jose Earthquakes -> Sacramento Repulic FC (shared)
    Portland Timbers -> Sacramento Repulic FC (shared)
    Los Angeles Galaxy -> Los Angeles Galaxy II

    2015
    Sporting KC -> Oklahoma City Energy (was Orlando City)
     
  7. bwidell

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    Apr 19, 2005
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    OKC is starting this season, FYI.
     
  8. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
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    I know, but SKC doesn't become their full affiliate until 2015, when Orlando City moves to MLS. They are splitting (2 players each) this year, but I was trying to simplify it.
     
  9. NFLPatriot

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    #9 NFLPatriot, Jan 31, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2014
    Three expansion teams (Sacramento, OKC, and Gals II), two folded teams (Tampa Bay and Antigua), leaves 14 teams in USL-Pro this year. The schedule was released yesterday, with each team playing the other 13 home and away, plus two games against MLS Reserve clubs, for a total of 28 matches.

    Here is the Rochester Rhinos schedule, as they open in Orlando on April 5th. Their two MLS Reserves matches are against CHI and FCD.
     
  10. ftruscot

    ftruscot Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    Franklin, MA
    The USLPro schedule isn't that balanced this year. It's not home-and-away plus two MLS reserves.

    For instance, Rochester plays the following (see details below) teams:
    3x -Orlando, Dayton, Wilmington, Pittsburgh, Charleston
    2x - Charlotte, Richmond, Harrisburg
    1x - All other USLPro teams + FCD Reserves and Fire Reserves

    So it's a quasi-regionalized unbalanced schedule. I know that some of the western teams play each other 4 times

    April 2014
    USLPROSatApr 57:30 PM ETRochesteratOrlandoESPN Wide World of Sports
    USLPROFriApr 117:00 PM ETRochesteratDaytonTBD
    USLPROMonApr 2112:00 PM ETRochesteratFire ReservesToyota Park
    USLPROSunApr 274:05 PM ETCharlestonatRochesterSahlen's Stadium
    May 2014
    USLPROFriMay 27:00 PM ETRochesteratRichmondCity Stadium
    USLPROSatMay 37:30 PM ETRochesteratWilmingtonLegion Stadium
    USLPROSatMay 107:05 PM ETOrlandoatRochesterSahlen's Stadium
    USLPROSatMay 177:00 PM ETRochesteratPittsburghHighmark Stadium
    USLPROFriMay 237:35 PM ETSacramentoatRochesterSahlen's Stadium
    USLPROFriMay 307:35 PM ETRichmondatRochesterSahlen's Stadium
    June 2014
    USLPROSunJun 17:00 PM ETRochesteratDaytonTBD
    USLPROSatJun 77:05 PM ETPittsburghatRochesterSahlen's Stadium
    USLPROWedJun 1110:30 PM ETRochesteratLA Galaxy IIStubHub Center
    USLPROSatJun 1410:10 PM ETRochesteratPhoenixPeoria Sports Complex
    USLPROFriJun 207:35 PM ETDaytonatRochesterSahlen's Stadium
    USLPROSunJun 228:00 PM ETRochesteratOKCPribil Stadium
    USLPROSatJun 287:05 PM ETCharlotteatRochesterSahlen's Stadium
    July 2014
    USLPROFriJul 47:00 PM ETRochesteratPittsburghHighmark Stadium
    USLPROFriJul 117:35 PM ETFCD ReservesatRochesterSahlen's Stadium
    USLPROSatJul 197:05 PM ETWilmingtonatRochesterSahlen's Stadium
    USLPROSunJul 274:05 PM ETOrlandoatRochesterSahlen's Stadium
    August 2014
    USLPROFriAug 17:35 PM ETCharlestonatRochesterSahlen's Stadium
    USLPROSatAug 97:05 PM ETLos AngelesatRochesterSahlen's Stadium
    USLPROFriAug 157:30 PM ETRochesteratCharlestonBlackbaud Stadium
    USLPROSatAug 167:00 PM ETRochesteratCharlotteQueens Sports Complex
    USLPROSatAug 237:05 PM ETHarrisburgatRochesterSahlen's Stadium
    USLPROSatAug 307:00 PM ETRochesteratHarrisburgSkyline Sports Complex
    September 2014
    USLPROSunSep 74:05 PM ETWilmingtonatRochesterSahlen's Stadium
     
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  11. LongDuckDong

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    Jan 26, 2011
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    United States
    I coded it for you.

    Code:
    April 2014
    USLPRO  Sat Apr 5    7:30 PM ET   Rochester at Orlando   ESPN Wide World of Sports
    USLPRO  Fri Apr 11   7:00 PM ET   Rochester at Dayton   TBD
    USLPRO  Mon Apr 21   12:00 PM ET  Rochester at Fire Reserves   Toyota Park
    USLPRO  Sun Apr 27   4:05 PM ET   Charleston at Rochester   Sahlen's Stadium
    May 2014
    USLPRO  Fri May 2    7:00 PM ET   Rochester at Richmond   City Stadium
    USLPRO  Sat May 3    7:30 PM ET   Rochester at Wilmington   Legion Stadium
    USLPRO  Sat May 10   7:05 PM ET   Orlando at Rochester   Sahlen's Stadium
    USLPRO  Sat May 17   7:00 PM ET   Rochester at Pittsburgh   Highmark Stadium
    USLPRO  Fri May 23   7:35 PM ET   Sacramento at Rochester   Sahlen's Stadium
    USLPRO  Fri May 30   7:35 PM ET   Richmond at Rochester   Sahlen's Stadium
    June 2014
    USLPRO  Sun Jun 1    7:00 PM ET   Rochester at Dayton   TBD
    USLPRO  Sat Jun 7    7:05 PM ET   Pittsburgh at Rochester   Sahlen's Stadium
    USLPRO  Wed Jun 11   10:30 PM ET  Rochester at LA Galaxy II   StubHub Center
    USLPRO  Sat Jun 14   10:10 PM ET  Rochester at Phoenix   Peoria Sports Complex
    USLPRO  Fri Jun 20   7:35 PM ET   Dayton at Rochester   Sahlen's Stadium
    USLPRO  Sun Jun 22   8:00 PM ET   Rochester at OKC   Pribil Stadium
    USLPRO  Sat Jun 28   7:05 PM ET   Charlotte at Rochester   Sahlen's Stadium
    July 2014
    USLPRO  Fri Jul 4    7:00 PM ET   Rochester at Pittsburgh   Highmark Stadium
    USLPRO  Fri Jul 11   7:35 PM ET   FCD Reserves at Rochester   Sahlen's Stadium
    USLPRO  Sat Jul 19   7:05 PM ET   Wilmington at Rochester   Sahlen's Stadium
    USLPRO  Sun Jul 27   4:05 PM ET   Orlando at Rochester   Sahlen's Stadium
    August 2014
    USLPRO  Fri Aug 1    7:35 PM ET   Charleston at Rochester   Sahlen's Stadium
    USLPRO  Sat Aug 9    7:05 PM ET   Los Angeles at Rochester   Sahlen's Stadium
    USLPRO  Fri Aug 15   7:30 PM ET   Rochester at Charleston   Blackbaud Stadium
    USLPRO  Sat Aug 16   7:00 PM ET   Rochester at Charlotte   Queens Sports Complex
    USLPRO  Sat Aug 23   7:05 PM ET   Harrisburg at Rochester   Sahlen's Stadium
    USLPRO  Sat Aug 30   7:00 PM ET   Rochester at Harrisburg   Skyline Sports Complex
    September 2014
    USLPRO  Sun Sep 7    4:05 PM ET   Wilmington at Rochester   Sahlen's Stadium
     
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  12. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
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    Thank you! I counted the games on the schedule and just assumed. Silly me.
     
  13. ftruscot

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    Feb 20, 2002
    Franklin, MA
    The math would work out. But I think they'll be happy to move toward conferences and more regionalized scheduling to keep costs down. Makes a lot of sense for a D3 team in such a large country.
     
  14. NFLPatriot

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    I missed this one last month:

    Vancouver Whitecaps FC and USL PRO club Charleston Battery enter affiliate partnership
    'Caps set to loan minimum four MLS players to club affiliate
    January 23, 2014
    whitecapsfc.com

    This leaves 8 clubs in the Reserve League.

     
  15. NFLPatriot

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  16. patfan1

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    Aug 19, 1999
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  17. LongDuckDong

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    Jan 26, 2011
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    United States
    Yeah, it's just a matter of time and money before the whole league is doing this. I know in Germany it costs about 2 to 3 million euros to operate a full reserve team, and I'd expect it to be ever so slightly more here in the states. That's still a decent sized chunk of money for the small market MLS teams. Eventually, I think we'll get there with all teams, but it will take a few years.
     
  18. patfan1

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    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    Let me guess who one of the last teams will be? The same as the Academy program? ;)

    And yes, I know the Revs did the Academy well.
     
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  19. VTSoccerFan

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    Jun 28, 2002
    Cary, NC
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    United States
    Thanks for the cost perspective based on what happens in Germany.

    That makes me wonder if MLS HQ should mandate that each team pays up a set amount, say $3M, to cover their own USL PRO team similar to the way they all pay in to the salary cap kitty. I would think that this would serve the league well in the long run and would better ensure that each team has some kind of reserve set up. Perhaps a mandate like this might have helped the prior reserve leagues succeed? If the league can pay big money for stars it seems like they would want to get involved on the development end as well. Maybe this is a case where the big money/market teams could help the small money/market teams by contributing more for the long term benefit of the league?

    This is an aspect of the league where I definitely can see the need for MLS HQ training wheels.
     
  20. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
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    United States
    To be fair, the Revs were among the first 4 to partner with a USL-Pro team.
     
  21. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
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    Partnering with another club and running your own club are two different beasts. As stated prior in this tread, running your own club is expensive.
     
  22. rkupp

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    Jan 3, 2001
    And that will be great when it's a reality.

    Bench players and those returning from injuries will be able to develop some game fitness. Supporters would have the opportunity to see and follow the younger prospects. Brother teams will help generate interest in the MLS club and vice-versa. It'll be a big step.
     
  23. Crooked

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    May 1, 2005
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    New England Revolution
    Agreed. It would be cool for the Revs to have a USL-Pro club in Providence, Hartford, or Portsmouth to help spread the Revs brand throughout New England.
     
  24. LongDuckDong

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    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's also this city called Boston I've been hearing about. Maybe it would be cool to have a Revs operated pro club there to help spread the brand.
     
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  25. Crooked

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    May 1, 2005
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    By the time we have a USL-PRO team to call our own we'll be playing in our new SSS on Boston Common. Duh.

    In all seriousness, if the Revs actually have a goal of moving the team to Boston or an urban suburb of Boston in the near future it doesn't make sense to have a USL-PRO team in the city.
     

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