US National Team(s) Thread [R]

Discussion in 'Sporting Kansas City' started by szazzy, Nov 5, 2009.

  1. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So I guess I'll be watching tomorrow from my couch....
     
  2. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    didn't you guys post the same thing?
     
  3. szazzy

    szazzy Member

    Apr 18, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    I'm guessing he's referring to what Tom (IASocFan) wrote. IASocFan is saying it's only a 12.5% chance, and that Grant Wahl is wrong.
     
  4. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, Wahl is right Tom is wrong, because if we're grouped with CAF, we have a 1 in 3 chance of being grouped with South Africa because another African team can't be grouped with South Africa. Meaning if Uruguay wins, it'll be us, Mexico, or Honduras in South Africa's group.
     
  5. TasteTheRainbow

    Aug 22, 2007
    Olathe, KS
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thats what I thought... had no idea what the other dude was talking about or who the hell Tom is. But Grant is def right.
     
  6. szazzy

    szazzy Member

    Apr 18, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    It doesn't matter anyway. We all know Mexico will miraculously come up in South Africa's group.
     
  7. KCBearcat

    KCBearcat New Member

    Nov 16, 2004
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And even more miraculously, they'll find a way to crash out in the group stage...
     
  8. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, it's in the round of 16 that they always find a way to get knocked out.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIFA_World_Cup#Round_of_16
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_FIFA_World_Cup#Round_of_16
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_FIFA_World_Cup#Round_of_16
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_FIFA_World_Cup#Round_of_16

    Seriously in the last 4 World Cups they've qualified for they've always gone out in the round of 16.
     
  9. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tom is IASocFan. The 12.5% is a 1 in 8 chance, he was saying we had a 1 in 8 chance of being matched up with SA. He just forgot that SA can't be grouped with other African teams.
     
  10. KC Wizzle

    KC Wizzle Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Columbia, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jimmy Conrad is the only field player not to be used by Bob Bradley against Slovakia, as of the 84th minute.
     
  11. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    New US jerseys for the WC have been leaked.


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqPYKmbFGws"]YouTube- US Soccer Jersey Video[/ame]
     
  13. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if that is in fact what our new home jersey will look like, it's just another disappointment. i don't understand why we have to be so devoid of color on our home jersey... and what's this crap with gray? the current jerseys look like crap with the gray stripes and now they like the gray so much they're putting a gray sash on the new one? i don't mind the sash, but let's do a red jersey for our primary and a blue one for our secondary. both with a white sash. simple. done. classic.
     
  14. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What I'm saying is that if Uruguay beats Costa Rica, it doesn't necessarily mean that we will be put in the same pot as the CAF teams. It's an assumption that Wahl is making, which may or may not be true. He may have better information than anything we've seen published by FIFA. If we aren't in the same pot as the CAF teams, we only may have a 12.5% chance of being in South Africa's group. I agree that if we're in the same pot as the 5 qualifying African teams, we have a 33% chance.

    It's not the math I'm questioning, it's the pot grouping assumptions.
     
  15. ojsgillt

    ojsgillt Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lee's Summit MO
    Hate sashes, love that they grey minimizes it. Could have been worse. Love the current jersey. But qualifying is over and the world cup jersey will stick around for two years. This jersey will be loved or hated on the performance of the team. If we make it into the quarters it wil be my new favorite.
     
  16. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lineup is out, Guzan, Hejduk, Spector, Bocanegra, Bornstein, Holden, Bradley, Clark, Feilhaber, Altidore, Cunningham.

    Jimmy and Eddie on the bench.
     
  17. NorthbankHighbury

    Jan 25, 2009
    Liberty, MO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Not a great 2nd half so far ................
     
  18. j_m_t

    j_m_t Member

    Aug 27, 2005
    KC
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    does any country in the world depend as much on one player as we do with donovan? we go as donovan goes. period.

    we never looked like scoring w/out their keeper giving us the ball. and hejduk... oh my.
     
  20. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. NorthbankHighbury

    Jan 25, 2009
    Liberty, MO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
  22. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Based on the announced pots for South Africa, I computed the following:

    Odds on US Group Make up:

    - 12.5% South Africa, South America, Europe
    - 25 % Arg/Bra, Africa, Europe
    - 23.5% 2 Europe, South America
    - 39 % 2 Europe, Africa

    I like the first option!
     
  23. glenthas

    glenthas Member

    Apr 3, 2009
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know, there's the potential for some pretty rough groups. E.G. Brazil, Mexico, Ivory Coast, Portugal.

    I guess our ideal is SA, US, Paraguay, Slovakia or so?
     
  24. NorthbankHighbury

    Jan 25, 2009
    Liberty, MO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    You can switch France with Portugal as well..... two groups are just going to be stunningly hard!
     
  25. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Fixed my own post! (as pointed out by Dr. Gamera in another thread)
     

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