US/Canada cups - NASL Edition

Discussion in 'NASL' started by WhiteStar Warriors, Mar 8, 2013.

  1. CHHSfan

    CHHSfan Member

    Oct 30, 2010
    Chapel Hill
    Club:
    Carolina Railhawks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bruce Arena is not in Carolina, and he will not coach. Shows you how serious they take it.
     
  2. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Boom The Strikers go down to FC Dallas.



    I hear the Silverbacks are down 2 goals.
     
  3. Bluesfan

    Bluesfan Member+

    DC United
    Aug 12, 2000
    Tampa
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Where is WSW to reverse field and tell us how the Open Cup doesn't mean anything now that the NASL is going down to MLS clubs and USL Pro has two upsets so far. ;)
     
  4. CCSUltra

    CCSUltra Member+

    Nov 18, 2008
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was all fixed, obviously
     
  5. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you guys really miss him so bad we can get him reinstated.
     
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  6. Bluesfan

    Bluesfan Member+

    DC United
    Aug 12, 2000
    Tampa
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Is he like Beetlejuice? Say his name and he appears.

    No. We are good thank you very much.
     
  7. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like to thank Carolina for beating LA since they weren't interesting at all in this tourney. Also like to thank Tampa for not allowing Seattle to make the final for the 5th straight year.
     
  8. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    4 USA NASL teams down, 2 still alive.
     
  9. Bluesfan

    Bluesfan Member+

    DC United
    Aug 12, 2000
    Tampa
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Two of the NASL's best clubs go through to the Fourth Round to carry the NASL banner. I like Carolina's chances at home to Chivas, but the Rowdies are going to need another amazing effort to get past the Timbers.
     
  10. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tampa will have to win 2 games on the road if they want to make the semifinals.

    Portland Timbers (MLS)/Tampa Bay Rowdies (NASL) winner at FC Dallas (MLS)FC Dallas Stadium; Frisco, Texas
    Wednesday, June 26 at 8:00 p.m. CT
    OR
    Portland Timbers (MLS)/Tampa Bay Rowdies (NASL) winner at Houston Dynamo (MLS)
    BBVA Compass Stadium; Houston, Texas
    Wednesday, June 26 at 7:30 p.m. CT


    Carolina RailHawks (NASL)/Chivas USA (MLS) winner at Real Salt Lake (MLS)Rio Tinto Stadium; Sandy, Utah
    Wednesday, June 26 at 7:30 p.m. MT
    OR
    Carolina RailHawks (NASL)/Chivas USA (MLS) winner at Charleston Battery (USL PRO)
    Blackbaud Stadium; Charleston, S.C.
    Wednesday, June 26 at 7:30 p.m. ET

    http://www.ussoccer.com/news/lamar-...-the-2013-lamar-hunt-open-cup-determined.aspx
     
  12. bullsear

    bullsear Member

    Feb 17, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    As an NASL fan, and a Minnesota fan in particular, I'd love to see both the Rowdies and Railhawks make deep runs. It'll help bring some recognition to the league and possibly soften up both teams for the remainder of the league season.
     
  13. blkbrnrvr

    blkbrnrvr Member

    Mar 2, 2003
    Auburn metro
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    This Silverbacks fan agrees. :thumbsup:
     
  14. CHHSfan

    CHHSfan Member

    Oct 30, 2010
    Chapel Hill
    Club:
    Carolina Railhawks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Carolina marches on past Chivas, and TB is down 2-0 in Portland. Looks like we get 25k, which will help on our trip to Salt Lake.
     
  15. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Two lower division sides in the final eight, which is the average for the last four years.
     
  16. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Last night's crowd figures:

    Kansas City - 15,981
    Salt Lake - 13,763
    Portland - 5,931
    Carolina - 5,066
    Dallas - 4,006
    New England (Harvard) - 2,500
    DC United (MD SoccerPlex) - 2,325

    7,082 average (which I would imagine will come down a bit with Chicago's matinee crowd). Highest fourth-round average on record (there was no fourth round from 1996-2002 and 2007-2001, so we're only talking about six years here).
     
  17. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo

    Chicago will surely be tickets distributed so it shouldn't be too much smaller although they might have lost some walk-up crowd last night.
     
  18. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chicago's last several USOC home matches:

    2006 final: 8,815
    2008 3rd round: 6,678
    2010 3rd round: 2,526
    2011 quarterfinal: 1,500 (time moved at last minute b/c of power outage)
    2011 semifinal: 8,909
    2012 1st: (no report)
    2012 2nd (no report)

    So it might not be above 7,082 but we'll see.
     
  19. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    2.006 announced. So, yeah.

    6,447 average for the fourth round, still a record. Tournament average (for the 58% of this year's games that I have) is 4,027.
     
  20. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well the last NASL team in the cup (cups) went down tonight.

    Good showing this year Railhawks!
     
  21. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wait, no NASL vs. NASL final AGAIN?
     
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  22. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well bad news for the Canadian NASL teams wanting to compete in the 2015-2016 CCL.

    http://www.nasl.com/article/uuid/1n...dian-championships-to-summer-starting-in-2015

    To be fair, it is the most logical thing to do and it is only for one year.

    But Now the Canadian Cup Champion will go from being the last qualifier to the CCL, to be the first, a full 11 months ahead of of the start of the CCL.
     
  23. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    See, now even Soccer Canada is in on the conspiracy to keep MLS' evil monopoly/stranglehold on competition alive!
     
  24. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States



    Not a bad record for the Railhawks.


    Also

     
  25. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo


    I hear people say this all the time but it just isn't accurate. The Open Cup is not the shortest route to the CCL.

    First, "only have to win four or five games in a row"!

    How many MLS teams won four or five games in a row last year? The word "only" should not be in that sentence. The MLS team that won the Open Cup certainly never did it in the league. The New York Red Bulls won 4 in a row a couple of times. And that helped them to the CCL by winning the Supporter Shield. KC, who was 2nd, and Portland, who was 3rd, never did it. RSL did win four games in a row in June. It is not an easy thing to do.

    The MLS playoffs are the shortest route to the CCL. Admittedly a little tougher now that they got rid of the MLS Cup loser automatically qualifying. Still, be in the top three of your conference and you only have to win 3 out of 5 games to get in. Admittedly, they have to be the right 3 but last year KC qualified for the CCL by outright winning 2 of their 5 playoff games. The Open Cup games do go to PKs so by that standard they won 3 of 5. So that is six teams that can do it out of a league of 19. Almost a third of the league has a chance to do it every year.

    Be in the top 5 of your conference and you have to win 4 out of 6 in the playoffs. Still easier than winning four games in a row. Especially when you realize that Open Cup games are in the middle of the regular season. At least with playoff games that's all you are playing at the time.

    I will maintain the MLS playoffs are the easiest route to the CCL. That may change with more teams in the league and the new qualifying rules but it is hard to see how the Open Cup is not harder.
     

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