Un Français à Rome ** The Coaching Tread **

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  1. GamE_Ove12

    GamE_Ove12 Member+

    Jul 7, 2013
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    AS Roma
    Castan: "Garcia gave us confidence, we would go to war for him"
     
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  2. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    To achieve what he did in one years time without ever having coached in Italy before, is quite an accomplishment. Kudos to Garcia for a successful season!
     
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  3. ShoelessMan

    ShoelessMan In vino veritas!

    Jan 25, 2006
    Houston
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. Michael Berk

    Michael Berk Member+

    Apr 21, 2014
    Chicago
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The man needs a blank check, yesterday.
     
  5. Giallorossi_10

    Giallorossi_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denmark
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    AS Roma
    think he is just as interested in getting some promises regarding our next transfer window!
     
  6. Vulpinous

    Vulpinous Moderator
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    Mar 15, 2007
    Jersey Shore
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    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  7. Khaos

    Khaos Member+

    Apr 8, 2014
    Roma, Italy.
    Club:
    AS Roma
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    Italy
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  8. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    12 months ago , no one knew Rudi Garcia.......how time flies!
     
  9. DCUroma

    DCUroma Member+

    Jul 20, 2009
    Suck it Sensi
    Club:
    AS Roma
    I think more people knew who he was than expected, he just didnt get much press with Lille.
     
  10. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Daniele DeRossi said he didn't know him....
     
  11. Wolfbeatseagle

    Wolfbeatseagle Member+

    May 7, 2007
    The Bermuda Tetrahedron
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Everyone certainly knows him now.

    I had heard of him from his time with Lille and when he was originally linked to us.
     
  12. whill4

    whill4 Moderator
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    AS Roma
    Sep 11, 2011
    Returning Video Tapes
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Garcia's book has launched.
    http://www.football-italia.net/48964/garcia-i-wouldnt-change-thing
     
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  13. meazza

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    Jul 12, 2013
  14. Vulpinous

    Vulpinous Moderator
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    Mar 15, 2007
    Jersey Shore
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    AS Roma
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    Italy
    I wonder if Rudi will use Florenzi out wide again next season. I don't really like him there.
     
  15. DCUroma

    DCUroma Member+

    Jul 20, 2009
    Suck it Sensi
    Club:
    AS Roma
    At this rate I would just make him a Left back.
     
  16. lb961

    lb961 Member+

    Jan 25, 2013
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  17. Roma_NY

    Roma_NY Member+

    Oct 19, 2009
    Washington, D.C.
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Having the right players is always important - but Rudi has instilled a winning mentality in this team and that can't be overstated.
     
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  18. lb961

    lb961 Member+

    Jan 25, 2013
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Does Roma have a formation?
    Roma have already defined themselves as a dominant force. But Andrea Tallarita thinks their tactics are more enigmatic than they seem...


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    Sometimes it helps to go back to the more basic questions. In the case of Roma, watching any of their starting line-ups, one may barely question what formation it is that they're fielding. It's obviously a 4-3-3.

    It may be worth revising that notion. For one thing, it's usually inaccurate. In the match against CSKA Moscow, and likewise in the season opener against Fiorentina, Roma's forward trident was presented with Gervinho on the left, Francesco Totti in the middle, and Juan Iturbe on the right. It goes without saying that a footballer can always be expected to drift in and out of his position at different parts of the game, even in the simplest teams, but those three players took it to a whole new level – none of them ever cleaved to the areas where they'd been assigned. Totti, in particular, played as a right winger against Fiorentina and as a central midfielder against CSKA.

    His fellow strikers were also see-sawing from one side of the pitch to the next. When Iturbe scored the opener against CSKA, his position was that of a central prima punta, while Gervinho served him from the left. Then Iturbe moved on to the right wing and served Gervinho, now in the middle. But for the 4-0 goal, Gervinho descended from the right flank instead, and for the second goal against Cagliari last Sunday he was overlapping with Mattia Destro as the frontman, before passing the ball to Alessandro Florenzi. Let's not even begin on how much back-tracking both players do and how much of their game is spent in the midfield.

    We mentioned in the past that one of Roma's strengths is the way that its forwards constantly switch positions with each other. That view was based on an assumption which should perhaps be reconsidered – it may be that Roma's strikers simply do not have a position in the first place. They may be told something as elementary as ‘watch where your companions are, and place yourself accordingly’. The exception to this is Destro, who is a classical poacher and seldom operates out of his central position. Perhaps this is the reason Rudi Garcia has so far denied him Champions League time, and why the player threw his bib away in frustration when he was subbed off against Cagliari – he simply has some trouble fitting into the system.

    The midfielders are likewise interchangeable in terms of position. Looking at the heat-map of Daniele De Rossi, Radja Nainggolan, Miralem Pjanic or Seydou Keita shows that they are all over the place. But this is nothing new – in any 4-3-3, the trio in the middle is expected to cover a wide variety of roles. There is less space for bipolar duos of regista / mediano, or specialist wingers – instead, all three players must contribute to all parts of the game.

    Now, going so far as to say that Roma have no formation at all may be a bit of a stretch. After all, their defence is still very traditionally organised, and the tactical originality of their play should not be overstated – as we mentioned, it is characteristic of all 4-3-3 formations to include midfielders that constantly cover each other. But the fact remains that watching those team arrangements before the match – on screen or on paper – is more likely to mislead than to illuminate. One of the reasons CSKA suffered such a drumming may be the fact that they were expecting to play a more traditional 4-3-3, only to be confronted with a team that seemed to constantly turn from 4-3-3 to 4-4-2, to 4-2-3-1, to 4-6-0, depending on the circumstance.

    Rudi Garcia, by design or serendipity, may just have stumbled on Serie A's most innovative tactical set-up in many a year – a team based around flexible and highly creative players with the ability and the bravado to constantly switch positions. A team that, at least from the midfield-line upwards, has no formation. While this is still conjecture, it may clarify some aspects of Garcia's game, including his obsession with a spine of players – starting from the central defenders, knitted closely with whichever midfielder is holding back and linking up with them – that are as good at passing as they are at man-marking and tackling. Strong ball distribution usually starts from the midfield to support the dynamism of the offence – in Roma's case, it starts from the defence to support that same process in the team as a whole.

    It also explains why a team as apparently rigid in its tactics as Roma is so successful. Typically, big teams are able to switch formations to adapt to different situations. Roma have side-stepped the problem by providing almost infinite variety within the same formation. As we often say here, it's early to say whether this was Garcia's design from the outset or the natural chemistry that developed between such iconoclastic players – it's probably a bit of both. But judging by the games so far, it certainly works. It works like a charm.
     
  19. porreca

    porreca Member+

    Jan 17, 2010
    UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    @lb961 uh Andrea Tallarita is back! :notworthy:

    where did you find him?!
     
  20. lb961

    lb961 Member+

    Jan 25, 2013
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    AS Roma
    Football-italia blogs if i remember correctly. The name means nothing to me. Is there some history i should be aware of regarding his articles?
     
  21. porreca

    porreca Member+

    Jan 17, 2010
    UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    He used to write the most epic articles about Roma a while ago during Ranieri and Spalletti times, here's an excerpt of what he wrote, appreciate the epicness of it:

     
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  22. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Garcia's defense has only conceded 26 goals in 43 total league matches and only 1 in 5 matches this season. That is quite an incredible statistic I'd say.
     
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  23. Indian_Gladiator

    Sep 4, 2014
    Kolkata
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    Rudi Garcia’s post-Juventus team-talk to his Roma players reportedly had him confidently tell them: “I know we will win the Scudetto.”

    The Giallorossi were left feeling aggrieved by a number of refereeing decisions in Sunday evening’s 3-2 defeat to their title rivals.

    For the public fallout on the matter, the Corriere dello Sport report that the Coach’s direction to his players after the game was much more positive.

    “In my life I have never seen refereeing like this,” Garcia is reported by the Rome publication to have approximately told his players.

    “But on a day like this I understand that we will win the Scudetto.

    “We will continue to work as we know, and we will show that we can finish in front of Juventus.”

    Now, u can scream for scudetto with Rudi's backing @GamE_Ove12 :)
     
  24. Salmeen10

    Salmeen10 Member+

    Jan 10, 2014
    Bahrain
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahrain
    How do they know what he is saying in the locker room?
     
  25. whill4

    whill4 Moderator
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    AS Roma
    Sep 11, 2011
    Returning Video Tapes
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sabatini left his cell phone on
     
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