UEFA Women's Champions League 2012-13

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  1. pozinho

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    This map shows the historical champions:
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    Until August 16th the group phase is taking place. So far 22 teams are already qualified:
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    France: Olympique Lyon* & Juvisy*
    Germany: Turbine Potsdam* & Wolfsburg*
    Sweden: LdB Malmö* & Göteborg*
    Russia: Rossiyanka* & Zorky Krasnogorsk*
    England: Arsenal* & Birmingham City
    Denmark: Brondby* & Fortuna Hjorring*
    Italy: Torres* & Bardolino Verona*
    Norway: Roa* & Stabaek
    Iceland: Stjarnan
    Austria: Neulengbach*
    Spain: FC Barcelona
    Belgium: Standard Liége
    Czech Republic: Sparta Praha*
    Netherlands: ADO Den Haag

    *seeded teams
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    This season, Norway gains one more spot instead of Iceland, and Spain gets automatic qualification , wich Kazakhstan lost.
    Ten more teams will qualify through group stage: the 8 group champions and the 2 best runner-ups

    The final, May 23th in London, the first city to host two UWCL finals (in a sigle match format).

    Good summer, i'll be back in a couple of weeks
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  2. pozinho

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    Hi everyone again

    The qualification groups are over and we know now the 32 teams that will fight for the champioship. The map looks like this:
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    The games will take place Sep.26/27 and Oct.3/4
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    Draw was held last week

    Holders Lyon handed Vantaa challenge
    Published: Thursday 23 August 2012, 14.45CET
    http://www.uefa.com/womenschampionsleague/news/newsid=1849134.html

    All White Kit
    UEFA Champions League Round of 32/16 Draw Announced
    http://www.allwhitekit.com/?p=10394

    As I posted in the AWK article, there should be seeding for two or three rounds, instead of just the first.

    2012/13 Rounds of 32 and 16 [pdf]
    http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/competitions/Draws/01/84/99/85/1849985_DOWNLOAD.pdf

    Club Coefficients for R-32 [pdf]
    http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/competitions/General/01/84/80/09/1848009_DOWNLOAD.pdf

    Regulations [pdf]
    http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles.../Regulations/01/79/20/35/1792035_DOWNLOAD.pdf

    Result of the draw
    23 August 2012
    Round of 32 and Round of 16
    UEFA Women's Champions League 2012/13

    Round of 32

    1. Stjarnan (ISL) - ZORKY (RUS)
    2. FC Zürich Frauen (SUI) - FCF Juvisy Essonne (FRA)
    3. PK-35 Vantaa (FIN) - Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
    4. Birmingham City Ladies FC (ENG) - ASD CF Verona (ITA)
    5. Glasgow City FC (SCO) - Fortuna Hjørring (DEN)
    6. MTK Hungária FC (HUN) - Malmö WFC (SWE)
    7. Olimpia Cluj Napoca (ROU) - NÖSV Neulengbach (AUT)
    8. RTP "Unia" Racibórz (POL) - VfL Wolfsburg (GER)
    9. Apollon Ladies FC (CYP) - Torres Calcio (ITA)
    10. Stabæk Fotball (NOR) - Brøndby IF (DEN)
    11. WFC "SFK 2000" Sarajevo (BIH) - AC Sparta Praha (CZE)
    12. BIIK (KAZ) - Røa Fotball Elite (NOR)
    13. Standard Fémina de Liège (BEL) - 1. FFC Turbine Potsdam (GER)
    14. ADO Den Haag (NED) - FC Rossiyanka (RUS)
    15. ŽFK Spartak (SRB) - Göteborg FC (SWE)
    16. FC Barcelona (ESP) - Arsenal Ladies FC (ENG)

    Round of 32
    26/27 September and 3/4 October 2012

    Round of 16

    1. Winners match 9 (Apollon Ladies FC or Torres Calcio) - Winners match 7 (Olimpia Cluj Napoca or NÖSV Neulengbach)
    2. Winners match 4 (Birmingham City Ladies FC or ASD CF Verona) - Winners match 6 (MTK Hungária FC or Malmö WFC)
    3. Winners match 5 (Glasgow City FC or Fortuna Hjørring) - Winners match 15 (ŽFK Spartak or Göteborg FC)
    4. Winners match 8 (RTP "Unia" Racibórz or VfL Wolfsburg) - Winners match 12 (BIIK or Røa Fotball Elite)
    5. Winners match 11 (WFC "SFK 2000" Sarajevo or AC Sparta Praha) - Winners match 14 (ADO Den Haag or FC Rossiyanka)
    6. Winners match 1 (Stjarnan or ZORKY) - Winners match 3 (PK-35 Vantaa or Olympique Lyonnais)
    7. Winners match 16 (FC Barcelona or Arsenal Ladies FC) - Winners match 13 (Standard Fémina de Liège or 1. FFC Turbine Potsdam)
    8. Winners match 10 (Stabæk Fotball or Brøndby IF) - Winners match 2 (FC Zürich Frauen or FCF Juvisy Essonne)

    Round of 16
    31 October/1 November and 7/8 November 2012
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    No the ranking system is so lousy that it would would not solve anything.
    Wolfsburg is ranked 15 for f.... is there any sane person that would claime they aren't odds on favorite agains all teams except Lyon and Postdam?
    And Göteborg and Malmö is 10 and 13 and seroiusly there are only four teams they shouldn't be tipped to beat (Lyon, Arsenal and the German clubs).

    UEFA have an all to heavy points on the club and not enough on the country, anyclub that qualifies from FrauenBundeliga is a top 3 contender and top 6 if from Damallsvenskan. Still if they have not played in CL recently they will be ranked 15 if from FrauenBundeliga and probably not in even in top 16 from Damallsvenskan.

    The top sixin quality have been pretty constant recently.
    1: Lyon
    2-3: The two German teams
    4: Arsenal
    5-6: The two Swedish teams
    And that goes for any two German or Swedish teams that manage to qualify from their national league.
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    I like the idea of more emphasis on the country point rating. Maybe other tweeks, like extending the ratings to seven years, or adding a weighting for the most recent years.

    UEFA is just taking a the men's point system (for over 200 clubs, over two tournaments, both of which have a group stage, with the top countries getting seven clubs), and using it for a single tournament of about 50-ish clubs, with no group stage in the tournament proper, and a max of two per country. So that's why I advocate my tweeks above.

    I would tread lightly with UEFA stating, as you imply, "these are required to be the top six / eight / twelve seeds." The current point-rating system may be a bit cruel for first-time clubs, but it gets away from any "political" decisions made by some shadow committee.

    The last point I'll make, in favor of the current rating system, is that the best predictor of having success in Europe is... having previous success in Europe. So, yes, new team, you may only get scrub points from your country's rating, but now go earn your own points for later years.
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    Any bright ideas on how to catch the Spartak Subotica vs Goteborg game tomorrow? All these sites I'm looking through for a stream are partially in languages I don't understand and mostly don't look helpful. :(

    EDIT: Apparently there's a broadcast on Radio Television Serbia 2, so it must be being filmed at least.
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    although you absolutely didn't read it here gricio has already provided the brightest of all possible ideas: those friendly elves of the citrus persuasion are eminently helpful in such matters. but since the göteborg fc official site specifies RTS2 you can probably go there. the wiki article suggests they provide a good deal of above-board open internet viewing.
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    kicked off 10 minutes ago:

    PK-35 Vantaa
    Ayegba – Leppikangas (cap), Korhoven, Berrier, Niiranen, Kivela, Saarinen, Hälinen, Parikka, Chapin, Bogus.

    OL
    Bouhaddi – Franco, Georges, Viguier, Bompastor (cap) – Henry, Bussaglia, Necib – Le Sommer, Tonazzi, Dickenmann
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    0-1 tonazzi

    if juvisy had kept her they might have beat zurich 5-0. that woman is ruthless.
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    0-2 renard
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    0-3 le sommer
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    dickenmann scored while i was cycling home to watch the rest for real instead of just following the scores on olweb. in the end it looked like this:

    OL : Bouhaddi – Franco, Georges, Viguier, Bompastor (cap) – Henry, Bussaglia (Abily 66ème), Necib – Le Sommer, (Le Sommer 52ème), Tonazzi, Dickenmann (puis Majri 52ème). Entr: Lair
    Buts: Tonazzi (13ème et 82ème), Renard (24ème), Le Sommer (35ème), Dickenmann (44ème), Majri (72ème), Abily (89ème)
    - Centre de Bompastor, but de la tête de Tonazzi
    - Corner de Necib et but de la tête de Renard
    - Solo de Le Sommer pour le troisième but
    - Erreur de relance de la gardienne et but de Dickenmann sur une superbe frappe.
    - Majri sur une frappe puissante de loin ajoute un cinquième but
    - Tête de Tonazzi sur un corner de Necib
    - Abily sur un centre de Bompastor

    personal remarks on the 2nd half:
    1) bompastor on a cloud.
    2) tonazzi makes two words come together that no sane person would generally consider putting in the same paragraph - schelin and dispensible (not to say that's my wish far from it).
    3) le sommer = messi
    4) majri? the next household word from french women's football.

    and last but far from least: the eurosport 2 commentary in english is not only a godzillion times better than what french eurosport, france 4, direct 8, schweizer sport, canal +, tf1 or bbc alba can offer... it's actually quite good. the first time in a long time i actually listened to the announcers.
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    Guignol, I asked on the Nadeshiko thread why Ami Otaki wasn't even on the bench, but no-one was able to answer me. Can you? o_O
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    first, she's not injured. and she's not in any doghouse, she's been doing great. but PL has a lot of girls to give pitch time to and otaki-chan has had her share recently. despite being a CL match this was not a particularly big deal.

    he definitely wanted to give bussaglia and dickenmann just one half each since they're both coming back from injury. and he wanted to give the new kid amel majri a chance to play in the CL too.

    leaving ELS in instead of subbing her out for thomis, and having ami take over for tonazzi would have been a possibility, but it's really no big deal, there's nothing to read into it.

    here are some photos of the match anyway:

    https://picasaweb.google.com/104897...piqueLyonnais07WomenSChampionsLeague269201202
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    Some highlights of the Birmingham-Verona match:
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    hard to believe that not being a penalty around 40", the ball goes flying but from what we see the defender had to go straight through the ragazza's right foot to get it, and the ref is barely any closer than the cameraman.
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    Round 32, first leg:

    Zurich 1-1 Juvisy
    BIIK Kazygurt 0-4 Roa
    Birmingham City 2-0 Bardolino Verona
    Spartak Subotica 0-1 Göteborg
    Apollon Limassol 2-3 Torres
    PK-32 Vantaa 0-7 Olympique Lyonnais
    Olimpia Cluj 1-1 Neulengbach
    FC Barcelona 0-3 Arsenal
    Stabaek 2-0 Brondby
    Standard Liége 1-3 Turbine Potsdam
    Glasgow City 1-2 Fortuna Hjorring
    Stjarnan 0-1 Zorky Kransnogorsk
    Unia Raciborz 1-5 Wolfsburg
    Sarajevo 2000 0-3 Sparta Praha
    MTK Budapest 0-4 LdB Malmö
    ADO Den Haag 1-4 Rossiyanka
    8 games; two draws and two unseeded teams won seeded teams (Stabaek and Birmingham).

    I'm also interested in attendance. I have 7 of 16 games data:
    Zurich: 2871
    PK-35: 1000 aprox
    Birmingham: 211
    Ol. Cluj: 1000
    Unia Raciborz: 5125 (record in a women's game in Poland)
    Standard Liége: 3905
    FC Barcelona: 1354
    If you have info of other games, i'd thank a lot.
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    Yes, probably there was a penalty for the foul on Gabbiadini, although in the interviews after the match both the trainer and the players admitted that Birmingham deserved the victory. They were more fit and strong, beyond this Verona is not going through a good period, on Saturday they drawed at home against a lesser valued team, lost another player for injury, so will be a very hard task for them to overthrow the score. :cautious:
    BTW, the match will be played at the Bentegodi, the stadium were usually play both Verona and Chievo male teams, the admission is free, at least let's hope that a good crowd will show...
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    Glasgow City v. Fortuna Hjörring 460.
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    for those of you interested in the economics of the game, tonight i will pay cash money for the first time ever to see OL ladies play. 5€.

    D1 matches are always free admission whether they play at field n°10 or in the stade de gerland. for champs league matches there have been tickets as far back as i can remember, but these were at first complimentary for all at the rate of one per person, then since last year complimentary only for men's season-ticket holders (which my son was but now he's away at university).

    actual figures aren't public but my guess is that ticket sales can account for no more than 100k€ revenue per year.

    figures have been announced for the jersey sponsor specific to the women's team : 1.2M€.
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    so, how good is Genoveva Añonma, exactly?
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    The match Verona-Birmingham will be streamed here: http://www.tggialloblu.it/ :thumbsup:
    Don't know if will be geoblocked, since it's a local TV that for sure didn't pay for the broadcasting rights, I hope not.

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