True Detective

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  1. Belgian guy

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    Some of the dialogue gets dangerously close to unintentional comedy, but I would say that this episode was very interesting.
    It still falls somewhat short of my expectations, but I will return if only for how gloriously beautiful it is shot. Best-looking show on TV right now?
     
  2. Belgian guy

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    Anyone else reminded of this scene when Marty busted up his mistress' hook-up?

     
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    What part? I loved the revival tent scene. I think some of it was meant to be funny.
     
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    I really do like the way it's shot. Really gives a sense of emptiness and futility to the area.
     
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    So woodys character is not wearing a wedding band in the interviews, so I assume he is divorced by then, or maybe I just did not see the ring.
     
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    No ring. It's safe to assume he's divorced.
     
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  7. Belgian guy

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    I love the wide shots of the Louisiana landscapes.
     
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    It's so flat.
     
  9. forza 4zA

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    Theories seen across the web;

    Rust and Marty are same person aka fight club

    Marty's daughter Audrey is the modern time killer

    Maggie and Jennifer become victims - see photos at end of ep three@

    Lawn mower man is Reggie ledoux is green eared spaghetti monster@

    Take notice of when rust makes notes, they are the real clues@

    @ I subscribe to this theory
     
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    I am enjoying it so far.

    Didn't realize that America has such parts where it looks worse than Russia.
     
  11. Belgian guy

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    Not sure how that one could ever work. They are very clearly meant to be two different people.
     
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    So my wife asked if the young prostitute (Anette?) at the "ranch" in episode 2, whom they questioned about Dora, is the teenage version of the little girl who disappeared from the neighborhood a while back. And the palsied uncle--got a bad vibe from him.

    And yeah, they had Marty look down at the absence of a wedding band after the two modern day detectives called him back from his remembrance of his lovemaking with Maggie. Divorce was my conclusion then (and I wonder if Rust and Maggie get together later on). I'm afraid it's also possible she's dead, but there's been no hint of that in the dialogue so far.
     
  13. Dr. Wankler

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    Inconsistencies didn't seem to bother David Fincher.
     
  14. Belgian guy

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    There are many scenes that could fit the multiple personalities theory.
    The interrogation scenes set in the present.
    The scene where Rust mowed the lawn but was then sent away by Marty.

    But there are others that I can't see how you could possibly explain. e.g. the double date. The telephone call that Maggie made with Rust. It would be a twist with a very rickety foundation.

    I don't remember any huge holes in Fincher's script, but then I have not seen that movie since it was released in theaters.
     
  15. Dr. Wankler

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    Been a few years for me... but IIRC the biggest one was when Brad Pitt and Ed Norton fight, and then a bunch of other guys come up and voila!!! Fight Club is born. Then later on we see a security camera shot, and Ed Norton is just fighting by himself. It doesn't look like the kind of thing that would lead a bunch of people to come up and say, "hey, let me in on this!"

    Ultimately re: True Detective, I think you're right.
     
  16. Dante

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    Not to mention the interactions in the police department with the other detectives, the captain and the governor's brother. It's clear that they are two people.
     
  17. forza 4zA

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    Anyone else watched the 13min making of true detective?

    The writer says it is More of a man hunt than a whodunit ........if that's true then many people have been wasting their time the past few weeks....lol

    Also, the reason for the present day interviews are because the Feds think the original case was botched and they want to find out what went wrong so they can get the real perp who has struck again. and Rust wants info on the new investigation so he can investigate by himself as a vigilante.

    Interesting
     
  18. Emperor Adriano

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    It's not a who dun it or any mystery. It is studying human existence and human emotion. I expected it to be dark and it has delivered there. Dialogue has been amazing.
     
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    It's not about that lol The meaning of the show obviously went over your head........
     
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    The dialogue on philosophy has been embarrassing. Elementary school level.
     
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    Quite the Contrary I think it is to raw for people. I wish I went to your elementary school. Why would you even watch all three episodes then if they were "basic" for your prestigious mind.

    I think human consciousness is a tragic misstep in human evolution. We became too self aware; nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself. We are creatures that should not exist by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self, a secretion of sensory experience and feeling, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody’s nobody. I think the honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction, one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal.

    Now we know that we are uncanny paradoxes. We know that nature has veered into the supernatural by fabricating a creature that cannot and should not exist by natural law, and yet does.

    And:

    And the worst possible thing we could know — worse than knowing of our descent from a mass of microorganisms — is that we are nobodies not somebodies, puppets not people.

    And:

    For us, then, life is a confidence trick we must run on ourselves, hoping we do not catch on to any monkey business that would leave us stripped of our defense mechanisms and standing stark naked before the silent, staring void. To end this self-deception, to free our species of the paradoxical imperative to be and not to be conscious, our backs breaking by degrees upon a wheel of lies, we must cease reproducing.
     
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    They are certainly overdoing Rusts misanthropic nihilism.
    Every other conversation they seem to have ends up there.
     
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    Exactly. It's as forceful as the juxtaposition of "high-intellect" and ordinary. It's almost Sorkin-esque.
     
  24. forza 4zA

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    #74 forza 4zA, Feb 1, 2014
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    When rust is with Maggie, he is quite normal.......he even cracks jokes. He is most crazed when winding Marty up and in the interview.........I don't think he is as far out gone as he pretends to be.

    After watching some trailers it seems that there is gonna be a lot about the current case as well as the nineties one.

    SPOILERS?@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    My overall theory is that the Tuttles are enabling and providing girls to a biker drug satanist gamg to do their nasty stuff in order to keep public fear of satanism high to draw people and their money to the church.

    I think that after the case in 1995 where they catch the perp, Rustin continues to work the case in his own time because he knows there is a larger conspiracy. Between 2002 and now after retiring he goes deep undercover in biker gangs to get more evidence .....see his mannerism and demeanor change from 1995 to 2012..........and it all comes to a head in 2012.

    Also think the latest victim is Audrey Hart.
     
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