Trapp and the U-20s

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by Kayak, Feb 7, 2013.

  1. crewfan_in_columbus

    Feb 25, 2001
    Columbus is home
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    I think what most should have seen is a player that was basically abandoned by the formation in the first game, and then got stronger and stronger in the subsequent games.

    It could also be argued that the player still had some Warzycha on him when the tourney started, then it slowly eroded to show the player his normally is.
     
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  2. Kayak

    Kayak Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Columbus
    Lucky to have him; his worst games he was hung out to dry as everyone else pushed forward and he was overrun in midfield. The US doesn't qualify without Trapp, he'll play an important role in the summer.
     
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  3. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was both. Trapp was very good most of the time and certainly got better as the tournament rolled on. When he had the ball he was fantastic. Pinpoint passes, good decisions, few turnovers.

    He was asked to cover a lot of ground defensively and in the 2nd game was late on many challenges, likely should have picked up a 2nd yellow and been sent off. Ramos subbed him off at the half to avoid the inevitable red card. He was just leaving his feet for no reason.

    In the final he was a beast on both sides of the ball. Learned his lesson about keeping his feet against speedy opposition and it made for a much better performance.
     
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  4. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
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    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    I reiterate that Crew fans will come to love this local kid.
     
  5. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    If it makes you feel better, the Mexican keeper Sanchez, is a Dallas homegrown player who will be in MLS before long.
     
  6. Tycon5

    Tycon5 Member

    Jun 26, 2000
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is really getting tedious.
     
  7. crewfan_in_columbus

    Feb 25, 2001
    Columbus is home
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Lol.... you can't argue that Trapp got better the further into the tourney they went, right? You also can't argue that the further into the tourney they went, the longer it had been since he was exposed to RW's training, right?

    You can't argue those two simple facts. Could one be responsible for the other? You can't say for sure that they ARE NOT related. So, there is a chance.
     
  8. Tycon5

    Tycon5 Member

    Jun 26, 2000
    Columbus, Ohio
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is getting really, really tedious.
     
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  9. crewfan_in_columbus

    Feb 25, 2001
    Columbus is home
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    As long as it's not really, really, REALLY tedious, then I think we're probably ok. But if we have to throw that third "really" in there, then we might really be in trouble!!!
     
  10. cam5fc

    cam5fc Member+

    Sep 23, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Facts are tedious things.

    How many times have we seen discussions on these boards over the past 4 seasons regarding the lack of growth in promising players and the decline of quality of others since the transition. I don't know that I really put tons of stock in the Trapp discussion, but I wouldn't be shocked if it was the case. I guess we can see what happens in June if Trapp starts horribly in Turkey and improves by each match.
     
  11. BG13

    BG13 Member+

    Jun 25, 2007
    I dislike Warzycha as much as the next guy and often times more. Your hypothesis there is weak sauce. Really weak. That line of reasoning by you or anyone is silly.
     
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  12. crewfan_in_columbus

    Feb 25, 2001
    Columbus is home
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Hey!!! It's MY hypothesis!!!!!! Credit where credit is due!!!!!





    .....or blame....
     
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  13. west ham sandwich

    Feb 26, 2007
    C-bus
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Especially when you consider how much better all those players do once they get to other teams. For example; Robbie Rogers, Andy Iro, among a plethora of others.
     
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  14. cam5fc

    cam5fc Member+

    Sep 23, 2008
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Right! They couldn't even recover with other teams! They were destroyed!!!!! :p
     
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  15. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The draw for the U-20 World Cup will be early afternoon on Monday March 25, in Istanbul.

    the teams are divided like so--

    Pot 1: South Korea, Mexico, Colombia, Spain, Africa 1, Oceania 1
    Pot 2: Africa 2, Africa 3, Africa 4, Australia, Iraq, Uzbekistan
    Pot 3: USA, El Salvador, Cuba, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay
    Pot 4: Croatia, England, France, Greece, Portugal, Turkey

    Since the tournament is being played in Turkey, I think the team to get in Pot 4 would be either Croatia or Greece. Though on paper Turkey is probably the weakest of the 6, so it wouldn't be horrible to be drawn against them either.

    In Pot 1, you obviously would like to avoid Spain and Colombia. A game against New Zealand or whoever winds up winning Oceania would be ideal.

    From Pot 2, the obvious choice is Uzbekistan, or one of the others from Asia. (South Korea beat Iraq on PKs in the Asian final.) In Africa, 3 of the final 4 are known (Mali, Egypt, and Ghana) with the 4th spot to be determined tomorrow, with Nigeria, Congo DR, and Gabon contesting it. The African final isn't until a few days after the draw.

    best case would probably be something along the lines of:
    New Zealand, Uzbekistan, USA, Croatia

    worst case would look like:
    Spain, Ghana, USA, France
     
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  16. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Craps

    Group A: Spain, France, Africa, USA
     
  18. DhamphirLoki

    DhamphirLoki Member

    Nov 4, 2008
    Well, pretty much this. The only question mark is which CAF team we get. Otherwise, spot on...
     
  19. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You just had to go and say it, didn't you?
     
  20. Swellster

    Swellster Member

    Jun 26, 2011
    Dallas
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Group of death ...
     
  21. CrewV Man

    CrewV Man Member+

    Aug 18, 2011
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Tough draw. Damn.
     
  22. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The African team won't be determined by final standings in Africa. The three non-winners will have a draw immediately after the final on March 30. So it could be the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th place teams.
     
  23. JB the First

    JB the First Member

    Apr 28, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I mean, we play the whole continent of Africa!
     
  24. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe we open with Spain:

    June 21- USA v Spain (in Istanbul)
    June 24- USA v France (in Istanbul)
    June 27- USA v CAF (in Kayseri)
     
  25. cam5fc

    cam5fc Member+

    Sep 23, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, the bonus side to this is that we will likely get Trapp back sooner than later.
     

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