Training Grounds catch-all

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  1. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's already some infrastructure built/paved in Lot B, and two full-size fields are going to take up a ton of real estate. I'm curious to see where they plan to shoe-horn in the fields and associated seating, etc.

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  2. ericlfd

    ericlfd Member+

    Nov 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    untitled.jpg i was having a hard time wrapping my mind around how big it would be, so i copied the size of the actual ppl park "pitch" as the nerds say. it doesnt take up too much room, and could be in a variety of places. i also realize there would be some space around it for bleachers or whathaveyou, but it gives a good idea of scale
     
  3. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where's the second one go?

     
  4. cpurdom

    cpurdom Member

    Mar 3, 2008
    127 F
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Spin it so it's parallel to the edges of lot b (15-30 degrees counterclockwise) and you should be able to fit two side by side with some room in between. If you dig up the built up island nearest the river you could stagger them (one with an end near Seaport Drive and the other with an end near the river). That should give you room for some indoor facilities and stands.
     
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  5. ericlfd

    ericlfd Member+

    Nov 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
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  6. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So to be clear, this "phase" would not include an indoor facility? just 2 outdoor fields, one potentially with bleacher seats... right?
     
  7. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's my rough mockup.... For the small stadium on the left I ripped Legion Stadium (wilmington hammerheads) which seats about 6K....

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  9. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also, they could remove the grassy area between Toyota Plaza and Lot B for extra room.
     
  10. Handsome Pete

    Handsome Pete Member+

    May 16, 2011
    Minneapolis
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sak might want to see the removal of the grassy knoll in case he reverts back to his old habits.
     
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  11. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isn't that the swamp?
     
  12. ericlfd

    ericlfd Member+

    Nov 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
  13. Lancaster FC

    Lancaster FC Member+

    Oct 2, 2007
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Quotes on the training grounds buried in page two of this article:

     
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  14. Tyr

    Tyr Member+

    Nov 7, 2009
    Lawrenceville
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh god. Not 60 days. . .
     
  15. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could be worse. He could've said "90".
     
  16. cwelch999

    cwelch999 Member

    Jul 5, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So here's my dumb question: the Flyers, for example, have a whole practice facility in Voorhees but, of course, play in Philadelphia. Why do the Union need their practice fields to be built on the PPL complex?
     
  17. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it comes down money. Doesn't everything? They already own the property they're proposing putting the new fields on, so no land acquisition costs come into play. They're looking to upgrade the existing stadium facilities as part of this, instead of building entirely new facilities elsewhere, so there's a major cost savings. On top of all that, there's transportation costs heading to/from Chester Park, bro.

    The pie-in-the-sky, PR-spin will be that players (especially the youngins) will be able to train in the shadows of PPL Park.
     
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  18. cflsteve

    cflsteve Member

    Jul 21, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I guess they do not have to have there practice fields built next to PPL Park. With the redevolpment of Chester if new land needs to be aquired for this the land in Chester will come at a very low cost.
    The Stadium itself received funding from the govt to develop the land in Chester I do not think that has changed so their will most likley be a lot of cooperation with the city.
    IMHO
    The development of the Chester land has come by the way of a jail, a Casino and racetrack, and PPL park. A training facility would be a welcomed addition as the retail and Housing development has not come as of yet.
    Like PPL Park itself it has excellent access from 322 over the bridge from NJ, 95 North from delaware, and 476 from the main line.

    For the other pro teams in Philadelphia the Eagles have their training facility next to the Linc and the Sixers are building in the Navy yard so the Union having theirs right next to the stadium makes sense probably both logistically and cost wise
    IMHO
     
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  19. cwelch999

    cwelch999 Member

    Jul 5, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Makes sense, thanks.
     
  20. sentrido

    sentrido Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Wasn't there some deal that if they didn't start developing the land by a certain date they would have to give some huge amount of money back?
     
  21. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So assuming this actually gets done the next step would be to add some sort of indoor facility right? Can't be using Weights Under the Bleachers/YSC/The Healthplex forever right?
     
  22. EmeraldDawn

    EmeraldDawn Member+

    May 11, 2008
    Brick, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know many Flyers have historically lived in Voorhees. I don't know if that's a chicken or the egg scenario with the training facility but I know as far back as Ron Hextall they've lived there. Went to his kid's birthday party at his house when we were in preschool together.
     
  23. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't TO live in Vorhees?

    Drew Rosenhaus says, "Next question!"
     
  24. slitz

    slitz Member+

    Feb 19, 2005
    Red City, 140
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    goes back way beyond the hextall era.
     
  25. EmeraldDawn

    EmeraldDawn Member+

    May 11, 2008
    Brick, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's what I thought. I think Bobby Clarke and Reggie Leach lived there too.
     

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