Trade ideas

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by OWN(yewu)ED, Apr 23, 2011.

  1. Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

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    And what about Alexandre, or Ring? Are they going to be traded also? With Wondo away, Sercan will play against the Galaxy.
          
  2. KMJvet Moderator

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    I'm not sure Yallop will do the logical thing and replace like for like. He'll probably move Stephenson to forward again or some stupid thing to keep him on the field.
  3. falvo Member+

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    Yeah maybe because I think Lenny will be suspended but I have a feeling Garza & Gordon will be starting upfront though.
  4. Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

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    You need to suppress those feelings.
  5. leocal Member

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    yup.
  6. hc897 Member

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    I'm curious about the defensive mid as well. We've got a log jam there. Khari, Cronin, Alexandre, Ring potentially Corrales if need be. Someone out of that group is going to be leaving. Alexandre and Ring are the most likely in my mind since Yallop has been playing Khari so consistently. But the team can afford to drop one or two of these guys and maybe pick up another proven defender. There seems to be sufficient depth for every other position except maybe the left wing.
  7. DasMoots Member

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    tfc needs defense and we could use some back up speed on the flanks. how about one or more of these guys ring, jma, hernandez for joao plata. throw in the rights to attakora as well o_O
  8. ant0n Member

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    Didn't TFC just buy him though? I would maybe look to get a winger from Portland.
  9. sportsfan-quakes Member+

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    Don't see how the Quakes can trade any of their defenders, no matter how inconsistent they may be playing (Hernandez, Opara), they are just too thin at that position. And with Salinas about to come back and Chavez hopefully healthy, I don't see why the Quakes would trade for a speedy winger. With Salinas and Chavez and Garza, they have 3 speedy wingers. And with Dawkins and Baca, they have adequate subs - not great, speedy wingers, but adequate. I would much rather see them try to trade something to get another defender. If Beitashour or Morrow goes down, or Bernardez gets reinjured, that would really hurt the team more than not having another winger.
  10. falvo Member+

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    Those guys should be gone too. I don't remember seeing Alexandre, or Ring all season. Sercan was invisible against the Galaxy. Wasn't a factor at all. I'd trade for draft picks. Trouble is, are there any takers? Don't think so.
  11. sportsfan-quakes Member+

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    I don't understand the fixation with trading anyone who is not getting regular playing time. It's only 13 games into the season, there's a long time yet. Teams carry 28-30 guys, there are going to be guys on every team that don't play that much over a 2 month stretch. The Quakes have been lucky that they have not had any injuries to their central midfielders, or else they would have gone to Ring and/or Alexandre. Ring is the de facto backup right back on the team, he plays that position in the Reserve matches. As for Guvenisik, can we give him more than one start and 70 total minutes of playing time to make an impact? Dawkins was absolutely horrible in his first match this year, and many players take a bit of time settling in. Sercan is nothing more than a 4th or 5th forward option, what do you expect from him?

    If the right opportunity exists to get a defender or a wing type player, I do think the Quakes should consider trading one or two of their central midfielders since they have so many. But just to trade for draft picks in the future, why do that? This team is having a special year, they need all the depth they can get, so they shouldn't trade anyone away without getting someone who can contribute in return either in that trade or in a related signing. Even if a guy never plays the entire year in an MLS match, he is playing in the Reserve and likely the US Open Cup matches, and is lining up against the starters in practice sessions, helping them get better.
    SJTillIDie repped this.
  12. Albany58 Member

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    I have to agree with you wholeheartedly on this one. There's a tendency for the participants on this board to jump on the frog and beat the shit out of it before it has a chance to dance.
  13. falvo Member+

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    Like it or not , sooner or later trades are imminent, especially for players who are not contributing. You can count on it! Its been proven ever year since 2008 and you really think no one will be traded? Are you serious?
  14. OWN(yewu)ED Member+

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    just watchin Ike these past few games i cant help but think maybe we should throw him Toronto's way. Theyre the only ones desperate enough to make that move, and have been our trade buddies in the past and we've gotten the better of them every time. They were extremely disappointed they missed out on Califf, and they still want a central defender. However, the only things of any value they have are draft picks and allocation money. Im wondering if we can send em Ike, Ring/Alexandre, and allocation money for their first round draft pick. Lord knows they need the defensive help and that would assure us an extremely high draft pick.....certainly a GA pick (would loooove me some Jared Watts as a replacement). Might be wishful thinking. The alternate is their second rounder and allocation $$$ our way......cuz i honestly cant think of any of their players i want.

    We will probably sit on Ike for the rest of the season as depth (which we have needed already this season), but after that I think we will probably deal Ike before the draft and then pick up another central defender in the draft next year as a much more cost-effective option.
  15. QuietType Member+

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    Don't we still have rights to Attakora? I guess even TFC doesn't want him...

    I'd trade Hernandez before I traded Ike. At least Ike has the potential to be a great player one day. Jason has shown he is done.
  16. DasMoots Member

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    not opposed to trading ike @ the end of the season if he doesn't get it together. with that said he may be a totally different player paird up with bernardez so we'll see....

    trade hernandez now as he's done.
  17. hc897 Member

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    Unfortunately, that's why Ike is a better trade. He's worth a lot more and would generate a much better return. I'm not sure the Quakes could really get anything for Hernandez. What did they get for Nick Garcia when they traded him to Toronto?
  18. Via_Chicago Member

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    I don't think now is the time to trade our depth in the back. I'd be happy though to trade allocation money, if it's available, for some veteran MLS depth on the wing. Or, we just sign Alas.
  19. SJTillIDie Member+

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    Our summer transfer window CB target could be Minnesota's Kyle Altman... I was checking out their site and stumbled across this video... it sounds like we were moments away from signing him in when he was training with us in pre-season but then he picked up a hamstring injury and then the transfer window closed. Relevant portion is his interview beginning at the 3:30 mark:

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  20. SJTillIDie Member+

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    This Kyle Altman guy looked pretty good against us last night... I think JD should go get him in the transfer window as CB depth.
  21. KMJvet Moderator

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    I think the Christiano or whatever his name was was better. Altman seemed more of prick than anything else.
  22. falvo Member+

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    If Ampai is or will be gone, Ellis McLoughlin could be next.....
  23. nivla Member

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    I was thinking the same. His name is Cristiano. Not sure about his age or past experience. Not bad in that game playing Gordon and Lenhart.
  24. OWN(yewu)ED Member+

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    likely the case......would like us to draft a #4 forward that gives us a bit something different in the draft next year. forward and central defense with our two draft picks, depending where the best value is.
  25. Via_Chicago Member

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    CB depth? How much CB depth do we need? We've already got 4 guys who can play CB! Where is wing depth? If Beitashour gets hurt, what then? Do we play Morrow on the right? And what about the midfield? Chavez and Salinas are true wingers, but when both were out we were playing Dawkins and Baca out wide. That's madness. I don't even care who we sign, so long as he's a winger.

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