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About Luiz Adriano first goal. I'd like you to remember something.
http://shakhtar.com/en/matches/stat/?id=1671
This one. Read the press-conference please.
After that shamefull loss Lucescu told that henceforth Shakhtar players should stop only when referee whistles and take fair-play rule as something that shouldn't interfere a victory.

 

I'm not. Actually, our captain confirmed that we deliberately concede a second goal from Danish side to wash that away.

 

So they took the "fair-play rule as something that shouldn't interfere a victory" then proceeded to gift Nordsjaellen the equalizer "to wash that away"?

 

After the scumbag scored he saw that his teammates were giving them way to score to even it up , he started running , shouting and waving his hands like an idiot telling them not to allow them to do that , talk about fair play...

 

To my recollection, there was a goal mouth scramble during a Barca attack, the ball broke loose wide of the area as a Shakhtar player remained on the ground and Shakhtar immediately played the ball out first time for a throw.
They expected to get the ball back but Barca instead thought the ball was 'cleared out of the danger zone', if you will, and took the throw as normal. Shakhtar players half-heatedly stood around as Barca worked the ball on the right, low cross came in, Shakhtar goalkeeper went down and had the ball covered but spilled it and Messi tapped in the loose ball in.
This was very late in the game with Shakhtar leading 1-0.
I'll search for a video. Not sure if that's all right.

I'm just wondering though, if the "players should stop only when referee whistles and take fair-play rule as something that shouldn't interfere a victory" then I imagine that this isn't the first time Shakhtar have done such a thing in the four years since.

 

Hmmm, that was a bad loss for Shakhtar, but watching the video (start at 6:45) I see your #10 go down on the corner in our box and one of your players plays the ball out at the halfway line while your #10 gets up. The ref did not see a foul, #10 is up and protesting but heading forward as he only drops deep for corners, the ref whistles for play to resume, Barca throw in goes to Bojan down the right wing, he shoots/centers and your goalie bobbles it badly. Messi is there to clean it up. Messi scores another in stoppage time.

So definitely play till the end of the game (and the half) as Barca learned all to well against Chelsea last season. But did you mean to suggest that it was not fair play for Barca to keep the ball after play resumed with a throw in at half field? After your own team kicked it out?

Here's the video: http://rutube.ru/video/3e48409de035483fb5f28a9dde9b9610/#.UKwHeuRWyuI

 

So Juve and Shakstar needs draw to eliminate Chelsea

 

For Chelsea to advance, Chelsea must win and Shakhtar must win. Anything else and Chelsea go to the Europa League... where Chelsea may FINALLY have a chance to get revenge on Atletico Madrid for that Super Cup slaughter.

 

Since you are here, can you explain what has happened to Chygrynskiy since he has been back at Waxtap? Has he been injured a lot or did his form drop off? I saw he was on the bench of a recent CL game and didn't make the bench now?

 

Sadly enough Chygrynskiy can't last more than 3 games straight without an injury, he's been like this even since his return from Barca. So he spends more time recovering than being available and there's no room for him to back the form in.
And now Rakitskiy is better defender than Chygro ever was, younger, way more audacious and, unlike Chygro, he still precisely doing those insane crosses and through balls. Kucher is firm and stable. So even after another Chygro recover, there's no place for him in competitive games. That's breaking my heart really, since I've wanted a dream offensive CB pair Rakitskiy - Chygrynskiy back in 2009 and Dmytro was my highest hope back in those days and I can't imagine what terrible stuff he might have on his mind and inside his soul.

 

Yeah, it didn't cause our DMF Stepanenko didn't join the team choice to just give the Nord. player to score right away. But that was fixed in the following attack.

Please read this to make all these things clear.
http://shakhtar.com/en/news/24558
http://shakhtar.com/en/news/24561
http://shakhtar.com/en/news/24562

You had a wrong impression then.

 

BBC: "Chelsea sack Roberto Di Matteo after Champions League defeat"


Honestly didn't see this coming. Well, not this soon anyway.
Funny thing is he may end up winning the FIFA Coach of the Year award in January, which I actually feel he deserves.
Abramovic, man... Papa don't take no mess, hit me.

 

No I didn't. Not based on what you posted earlier.

 

It's a shame really that nobody from Barca apologized in any way. Or trying to convince that were a different story that you shouldn't feel guilty about. Too much double standards here.
About my post that was something that Lucescu said some time after that Barca game. In reality, we always honoured a fair-play rule as strictly as it is.

 

No double standard. No one outside of Donetsk thought it was anything to cry over.
If Pyatov holds on to that cross no one at Shakhtar would be complaining... then nor all these years later.

And yet you used that quote to try to justify Luiz Adriano's actions.

 

Abramovich is a major clown. I really hope Pep doesn't go there, no way would he like to work with Roman if he didn't like Rosell that much.

I don't think Adriano should be excused for doing what he did, but since North Zealand got gifted a goal from Shakhtar to cancel that out, the result in the end shouldn't be argued.

 

Looks like I was right, although not surprised obv.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/596/exclusive/2012/11/21/3544664/guardiola-would-reject-chelsea-approach

 

Didn't really look like it, in my opinion. Didn't deal with a poor ball into the box and just gave up as soon as the FCN player turned to shoot.

 

Shaktar may have played soft after the shameless goal they scored, but it's not like they let the opponent score in a fashion of admitting the unfair play. They just conceded, and if it was voluntarily, it was made to look like unvoluntarily. This is how you concede after you score an unfair goal:

 

Absolutely.

And remember a couple of seasons ago, Juvenil B righted a wrong as well...




Of course, we all know Real Madrid always leads the way, especially when it comes to 'fair play' and conceding after scoring an unfair goal. Who will ever forget this little gem, bless their generous hearts...