Time for a new "Mass Shootings" thread

The problem is, at the end of the day, almost ANYTHING can be 'discussed'. Now, discussed 'rationally' is another matter.

 

I think I've mentioned before about a friend of mine, (well... my brother, more accurately), who's an Oxford graduate, (Trinity, IIRC), who is now a solicitor. Some years ago we had a lengthy philosophical discussion about politics and, at one point we were reduced to discussing, quite seriously, what the word 'means' means

Thus, the problem.

I don't think it's a accident that a country with as many lawyers as the USA, has some of the most ludicrous and idiotic laws, (I suppose we should say 'legalaties' to be fair), imaginable because, as you say, anything CAN be debated and, with enough money and determination, WILL be.

That's how you end up with current US gun laws, Corporations being 'people', etc. etc. Most other countries wouldn't even discuss such matters. It's like US law has been taken hostage by an undergraduate, (probably a stoned one), who's engaging in a thought experiment before he passes out.

 

We could also say that the National Guard is the well regulated militia and if you want to carry a gun/rifle, you must be part of the National Guard.

The SC as it stands today may not go for it, but may be worth a try.

 

Wow...going back to the days of the Wild West...notice how it is never called the Pleasant West, or the Safe West...

 

I'm guessing "some" is an understatement.

Someone else having guns never makes other people feel more comfortable.

 

the defense in a lot of murder cases is "temporary insanity" - which is closer to anger/rage than a true mental illness.

 

yay! back to the days of living in a constant state of paranoia and fear for one's life. where any little altercation has the potential to escalate into a deadly situation!

 

the only way I can see getting around the 2nd amendment is to argue that although the 2nd may have guaranteed general gun rights, it did so for the purpose of the defense of the state and it was in the context of not having a standing army. since that is no longer the case (i.e. we have a standing army to defend the state), the purpose for which the 2nd was enacted is no longer applicable. but I don't see the SC going for that either in the current political environment.

 

http://m.mysanantonio.com/news/loca...e-substation-5381086.php?cmpid=twitter-mobile

The speakers at the event noted they generally have a good relationship with the police department, but that the arrest of Vichique crossed a line. After refusing to put his weapon down, Vichique was stunned with a Taser and arrested — all of which was caught on video by Vichique.

“I personally was outraged when I saw the video,” said Victoria Montgomery, pregnant and wearing earrings with guns on them. “It's absolutely disgusting.”

Open Carry Texas President C.J. Grisham read the portion of state law that he said the city's ordinance violates and drew cheers when he said San Antonio police should arrest City Council members for passing such an ordinance instead of arresting Vichique.

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3 dead in Kansas in a shooting at Jewish daycare and cultural center. While the shooter was being arrested he screamed Heil Hitler.

 

link? I imagine that's the kind of rumor that can spread very quickly.

 

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/3-dead-after-suburban-kansas-city-shooting?ocid=msnnws

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2603828/At-two-dead-shootings-two-separate-Jew

Right there

 

I meant the Heil Hitler shout, not the actual shootings. Police haven't addressed whether or not religion was a motivating factor yet.

 

http://www.kshb.com/news/region-kan...-the-jewish-community-center-in-overland-park

This one also reports the antisemitic remarks from the shooter. Three dead, and apparently two others injured in two distinct locations. They're over a mile apart, and he would have had to cross 119th street, which is a major street with heavy traffic. Seems unlikely he would have walked, but maybe? Bizarre, and certainly not random.

 

He said Heil hitler.

 

Thanks - I'm still a little bit annoyed with CNN for their Boston Marathon bombing "coverage." Anything that could be taken or construed out of context will be by the major networks, it seems.

 

CNN is awful and has nosedived as a credible news organization IMO. The Malaysian airline story was another example of their inaccurate reporting, sensationalism and overkill.

 

A little Old Testament retributive justice ...

 

A bit of 'no-nonsense' smiting, y'mean?

Mind you, you fellas have been getting a bit of a reputation for that sort of thing so, maybe not such a good idea? Just a thought!

 

Hurray for the KKK! They are a well regulated militia!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...edly-longtime-ku-klux-klan-leader/?tid=pm_pop