The Wire

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  1. soccernutter

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    My guess is that we have sold it so much that it was somewhat expected and not as dynamic.
     
  2. Felixx219

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    Wow, I didnt know Lehane had a hand in this show. That explains a lot.
     
  3. Felixx219

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    What's the best season of this show. I am 2 episodes into season 2 now. I wasnt expecting a complete change in plot like that but I like it.
     
  4. That Phat Hat

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    Wire fans are generally split between Seasons 2 and 4. I prefer 4 myself, but I understand the criticism Season 2 people raise.
     
  5. SixKick

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    Really? I hear more love for season 3 than 2.
     
  6. soccernutter

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    4 is my fav, but then I have worked in that environment so I am biased.
     
  7. Val1

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    Season 4. But I liked the change in focus in each season. I loved that the show was willing to move to the docks in season 2, but I liked McNulty less in that season. I also like season 5, mostly because I so loved the editor. But season 5 is shorter and the whole Jayson Blair angle is truncated, which robbed the show of its subtlety.
     
  8. os_mutante

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    Yeah, he probably had a lot to do with shaping some of the characters and their arcs, like McNulty.

    Omar Little is all Pelecanos, though. He's a lot like one of the guys in King Suckerman.
     
  9. Crimen y Castigo

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    +1

    In Season 4, the Prez/school storyline, The Snoop/Chris reign of terror, the Omar / Marlo / Prop Jo / The Greek dynamics -- all great plots, great suspense, great action.

    But the emotion in this season was perhaps unparalleled. I think it's why folks say it's the best thing ever on TV. I'm a late comer, having just watched them all last year. But I can still literally feel that season.

    Specifically, the personal stories of Randy and Bubbles/Sherrod were so heavy and true and powerful--I'm not sure what can compare.

    I loved all the other seasons, but that season was such masterful culmination of the previous back-stories and emotional investment from Seasons 1-3, they really created something amazing.
     
  10. Felixx219

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    I am still trying to figure out who Omar is and what his goals are. I have a feeling he is one of the more interesting storylines of the show, am I right?

    Also, what kind of prison is Avon, DeAngelo and Wee-Bay in? That's like a really nice country jail, not a prison. Also, why are they all together? That's not realistic and I thought DeAngelo flipped on Avon. I guess he doesnt realize it yet?
     
  11. Crimen y Castigo

    May 18, 2004
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    D'Angelo never flipped at the end of Season 1.

    He was going to at the end of Season 1, but his mother came in and talked him out of it. So at the beginning of Season 2 he's doing his time for 'the family.'

    He continues to struggle with this, though.
     
  12. os_mutante

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    IIRC D'angelo isn't on the same cell block as Wee Bay and Avon. They probably all were separated at first but Avon has enough pull to get him and Wee Bay in the same spot. We can assume that he tried to do the same for D'Angelo and he said no thanks.

    I can't remember for sure but I think Avon did pull the strings to get D'angelo the library job.
     
  13. luftmensch

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    Same here. Season 4 was my fave.

    Closest I've heard to universal agreement is that 5 was the worst. But that's only relative to the others, it's still better than just about any other show out there. And my brother works in the newspaper industry and he absolutely loved that season.
     
  14. Crimen y Castigo

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    While I loved every season -- the Hamsterdam storyline in Season 3 (I believe) was the biggest stretch for me.

    I loved the whole "bottle in a paper bag" line of reasoning, and I've been well-versed in the futility of the War on Drugs -- but the idea of a high-level police official engaging in a rogue project on that scale was a bit much.

    But that is the very definition of a quibble. Still an excellent season.
     
  15. bungadiri

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    There's going to be a class taught on The Wire Season 4 and what it says about education here at U Mich-Ann Arbor next term.

    That season hit me the hardest, because of the kids in it, I'm sure.


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    My least favorite season might have been the docks, but that's not to say I didn't like it. It just seemed to start slowly and that one guy (the actor later went on to do a wonderful job in Generation Kill) could be annoying. Eventually, I was just as wrapped up in that season as the others, though.
     
  16. os_mutante

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    The idea for Hamsterdam came from the story of real life former mayor of Baltimore Kurt Schmoke.

    The Hamsterdam and Jayson Blair parts are the two things that most viewers had the hardest time swallowing which is probably why Seasons 3 and 5 are usually not considered favorites. Although there were some viewers who didn't like Season 4 because that's when the show completely stopped being a police procedural.
     
  17. Felixx219

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    Damn, I missed that at the end of the season I guess. I remember his Mom visiting him but dont remember him telling the cops no. I thought he signed something.
     
  18. soccernutter

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    My memory is that he did agree to something, but then backed out. Morality v. Family.

    Personally, I loved the scene in season 1 when he had to take care of the fishes. I had a sadness all through that scene until the lights were turned on. What a relief.

    As a side note, was talking to one of my teachers. He was trying to teach some of the students chess. As he was saying this, we were reminded of D teaching Bodie how to play chess. He is gonna find that and teach the kids.
     
  19. That Phat Hat

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    This is great stuff for The Wire nerds: http://periscopestudio.com/category/the-wire/
     
  20. ThreeApples

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    They don't show a scene where he backs out, but it's obvious when he shows up in court with Levy as his attorney (after having fired him in the "Where's Wallace" scene the previous episode) and he gets a the maximum sentence, 20 years, instead of the plea bargain and witness protection that Pearlman was working on. Basically his mom told him that his son and baby mama would get cut off from the Barksdale money if he testified.
     
  21. Val1

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    Mayor Schmoke cameoed (is that a word?) in Season 3 several times as an advisor to the mayor. Once I recognized him, I knew the Hamsterdam project was going through on the show.
     
  22. Felixx219

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    I actually liked the first season better than the second. I just found the Barksdale cast to be more interesting to follow than the guys from the docks. I am watching the Season 3 premiere now.

    I am guessing this season focuses on politics?
     
  23. metroflip73

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    Watched the 1st season on HBO OnDemand, I got hooked rather quickly, due to friends of mine who worship the show, and having seen bits and pieces of the first 2 seasons here and there.

    So currently, I'm up to S2E4. Sure the plot surround the Pit and all that was great, and how the Polish-Am cop finds his niche and kicks ass, but the dock stuff is really enlightening.
     
  24. DDR

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    There's also another scene before the court room where Ronda calls up to the jail where he's being held and she expecting to deal with the push over public defender and instead finds a cocky Levy on the phone.
     
  25. DDR

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    Season two get's a lot of hate from people, I don't understand why though. Aside from Ziggy's annoying self it's a fantastic season that lays the groundwork for so many things.
     

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