The Walking Dead (Season 3)

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  1. Boogie_Down

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    They had to make room for him by killing off the other black guy. Only one black guy allowed at a time on Walking Dead.
     
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  2. Buzz Killington

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    Same reason T-dog got killed off
     
  3. JohnnyFutbol

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    As a huge fan of Shane - i loved the little cameo.

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    Only one in the original Living Dead movie too, but he surprisingly was the hero, instead of being a mere red shirt. Clever touch that.
     
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    Yep, it's an ugly pattern. I knew once Tyreese was in the opening scene that Oscar wouldn't make it out of the episode alive. I guess everyone saw it coming.
     
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    Shane looked like Wolverine.
     
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    LOL, I made the token black guy comment to my wife last night. She doesn't watch the show so she didn't care, I just got a kick out of it.
     
  8. Belgian guy

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    That's twice in one season they've done that now! o_O
     
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    Did they talk about what a great guy he was after he was dead? :D
     
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    Why not just keep T-Dog around to replace Oscars death?

    Much stronger impact and less racist appearing

    I'm betting Rick missed having Shane around when he came up against Woodbury:D

    Carl continues to grow, Axel continues to seem like he was imprisoned for being some sort of pedophile rapist, Tyrese is tough, commanding, but contains empathy.

    Michonne should have told Andrea "there's your proof"

    And Daryl, when spotting andrea should have shouted out "They had Maggie and Glen, Rick and I came to get them back!"

    Such an obvious thing someone in that position would say left unsaid.

    If andrea hasnt completely descended into Jar Jar Binks territory she should start puzzling it together that Daryl wouldnt be there as some sort of terrorist, and that means more members of her former group are still alive.
     
  11. Felixx219

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    Because he has a conversation with a women it shows he is a pedophile? The man has been locked up for years and these are likely the first women he has encountered that entire time. I would be eager just to talk to a women, much less anything else.

    I am sure Andrea has started putting things together and probably realized that Michonne suspicions are correct.
     
  12. Area 51

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    I dont know...it just the vibes emanating from him...something is definitely off imho.
     
  13. Belgian guy

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    It's quite obvious that Axel is being presented as some sort of sex offender. Even the way he was presented prior to this episode pointed in that direction.

    And his conversation with Beth was super-creepy. She's 17 years old FFS!
     
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    Why hasn't anyone commented on how batship bananas stupid this episode was?

    Nothing new but for an episode that was set up for so long it missed every single beat.

    The obvious moronic fight. Moreover, does anyone know how to shoot action? The shootout was a giant uncoordinated mess.

    What is Michone's motivation to go back and kill the governor? We are asked quite a lot to empathize with her but a big reason why she's such a bad character is because she just comes off as another insipid batshit crazy person in this universe with no motivation.

    At this point we shouldn't be surprised at the glaring racism here with the black characters switched out again. Complements the extreme sexism well enough I guess. Perhaps other than Girls, very few other shows on cable make women look this bad.

    The set up for the 'cliffhanger' was literally unbelievable. It's so over the top dramatic that the two brothers just coincidentally end up in the stupid fight pit at the end to face each other or whatever. Wow this episode was dumb. I mean, really the show is perfect. It just hits every bad note, again and again. At this point I am convinced it will never actually be good but I'm tuning in just to see how much worse it can become.

    There is quite NOTHING compelling about this show anymore. Can anyone find something compelling?
     
  15. SirManchester

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    It's actually quite obvious in the writing, the acting, the blocking, etc

    He's absolutely 100% going to be revealed some kind of sex offender. If this show follows its own pattern, I can guarantee you he will.
     
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    "Lets make one of the prisoners a sex offender!" [casts a shifty-looking short guy and gives him questionable facial hair]
     
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    I've quite liked Carl this season.
     
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    Ahem!

    This show is just Melrose place

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8670609/alan-sepinwall-origins-lost

    I thought this was an interesting article about Lost and the devolution of the classic genres into Soap-porn


    To me none of these people understand the fundamental rules of Science Fiction

    http://deoxy.org/pkd_how2build.htm




    Its a shame we can't combine the brilliance of 70s writers like Terry Nation with modern budgets and production standards.
     
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    I don't mind Lost. I think it was innovative in its approach but it only seemed to work for itself, as much as it has been copied.

    The approach worked for Lost because it was patient in building up relationships, and themes and the longer we waited the more rewarding it was. I know many will disagree here but the characters felt fleshed out and that we went through a lot with them. They grew.

    With The Walking Dead, the exposition is stretched out but unnecessarily so. If you won't explore complex themes, then don't lay the foundation for it. It leaves a massive gap in what could help the show actually create a core of interest; the characters themselves. Which brings me again to the point that nothing seems compelling here. The drama is so water-thin in actual tension and believable quality that we can't properly invest always leaving us at a distance.
     
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    I enjoy it just fine. It's a television show that is meant to be entertaining and I am entertained by it.
     
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  21. Felixx219

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    Obvious? Absolutely? 100%? Either you have read spoilers or you are talking in absolutes when it is simply your opinion that he may be a sex offender.

    How is it obvious? If he were a pedophile, he would be going after Carl being that he is the only child there. If he were a rapist and it were obvious, he would be doing more than simply having a friendly conversation with Beth.
     
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  22. The Jitty Slitter

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    I agree Lost had redeeming aspects - but I raised that point to show specifically how these guys don't get or don't want to get the Sci-Fi genre.

    That's why it often feels so crap - because the worlds they create "fall apart two days later" - and not in a good way. e.g. Woodside - the govenor needs warm bodies yet he kills people left and right. He does nothing about resources. That's why you don't feel 'in' the location. The characters don't react and interact with their environment at all.

    Personally I think this sort of show would be so much better with the standard questing narrative.

    TWD also has shit scripting - something Lost didn't suffer from - at least early on.
     
  23. Belgian guy

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    I actually think Lost had some pretty poor writing as early as the second season. Really, nothing ever got close to the quality of the pilot (which was and is the best thing JJ Abrams ever made by some distance).

    I can forgive them for not having a long-term plan when they were shooting the original season (it was pretty unclear at that point if it was going to be any sort of success), but after it became a world-wide phenomenon, they should have made a conscious effort to at least attempt to agree upon an overarching theme and narrative.

    Where this show fails miserable compared to stuff like GoT is characterization. There is a very clear and logical line in the development of a character like Tyrion Lannister. His behavior and choices make sense in light of what we know and have seen from him in the past, as well as what happens to him through the course of the seasons. With TWD, the characters only seem to exist to serve the plot of the week, and it does not matter if previous events or character traits contradict their current behavior. The exponent of that in the last episode is Andrea. She was supposedly on the road with Michonne for eight months. Yet she chooses the side of a man she has barely known for a couple of days/weeks, even after being confronted to his chamber of horrors? o_O
     
  24. The Jitty Slitter

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    I've only seen the pilot :D

    And I agree - it was the best thing I'd seen in a long time.

    Edit: I still think demo was bang on in the last thread when she mentioned the classic soap story arc. The characters spend the whole time rehashing the same issues endlessly with lots of closeup facial shots, then something big happens end of week, end of season etc.

    Woodside is hashed out exactly like Melrose - classic fixed location / couple of apartments stuff.

    Its dirty - but we watch it :D
     
  25. SirManchester

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    Like I said, there is a clear pattern in the writing, blocking, character design, and overall zeitgeist of the show. These things are supposed to work subliminally. Weird mustache. Juxtaposition of scrawny white male among physically imposing, clear felony offenders, etc.
     

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