The "This doesn't really fit in anywhere" thread

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by F96, Jun 15, 2010.

  1. F96

    F96 Member+

    Oct 24, 2002
    Skåne
    Club:
    Hannover 96
    The local paper posted a list of the 10 most watched games of the German NT yesterday:

    #1
    • Germany – Italy
      WC semifinal 2006
      29.660.000
    #2
    • Germany – Turkey
      EC semifinal 2008
    #3
    • Germany – Argentina
      WC final 1990
    #4
    • Germany – Czech Republik
      EC final 1996
    #5
    • Germany – Spain
      EC final 2008
    #6
    • Germany – Austria
      EC 2008
    #7
    • Germany – Australia
      WC 2010
    #8
    • Germany – Portugal
      Ec quarter-final 2008
    #9
    • Germany – Argentinia
      WC final 1986
    #10
    • Germany – Brazil
      WC final 2002
      26.540.000

    This year's CL final was watched by 12.000.000 btw and the
    Eurovision song-contest ;) by 14.690.000 as a comparison.
     
  2. poorvi

    poorvi Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
    Bombay
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Nice stuff!!!

    The interesting thing is that there is a gap of (only) ~ 4 mio between #1 and #10.

    How is this figure computed? What about those thousands who watch the games not at homes/bars but at city squares/ fan miles etc??

    Germany's population has remained static for the better part of the last 2-3 decades, so that's not a factor. The reason WC 2002 final has comparatively lower viewership is because of the time gap between Japan and Germany imo.

    Surprisingly, the 3rd place game against Portugal is missing form this list. So are the games against England in Euro 96 and Italia 90. So much for the rivalry :p
     
  3. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    You won't get much more viewership for a soccer game in Germany than that.

    Those are obviously not counted - and not a factor for any tournament before 2006 anyway.

    Em, this is a factor. There's an obvious reason why per capita the 1986 and 1990 finals were the most watched by far among those, and few pre-1990s games had a chance. For the games after 1990 not so much, though.

    The game was sunday afternoon in Germany. The main reason of the slight difference is probably the much bigger hype in 2006.
     
  4. poorvi

    poorvi Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
    Bombay
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    If this is a 2006 onwards phenomenon, then the numbers are slightly misleading. If the fan mile didn't exist for WC 02 final we have the entire viewership house or pub based. Now many of those attended the fan mile. Its kind of cannibalized into the same share. So is the increase for the post 2006 games is much more substantial?
     
  5. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Good point...
     
  6. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    TV ratings are based on only a few homes anyway. We don't really know how many people watched in 2006 compared to 1990. The real question would be how many of the people who where part of audience measurement that day didn't watch because they were out of home.

    And either way - if Germany should reach the final in 2010, I'd expect the game to be less viewed than the 2006 semi-final. The hype back then was huge, and it's not as if there are actually that many soccer fans in Germany.
     
  7. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This kind of stat will be changed from now due to the rise of internet match streams, no? So more people can be watching but will not be taken into consideration because it's not tv.
     
  8. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    So far I doubt that's that much of a factor. If we are talking legal streams, though - those should be much easier to keep track of, actually. Illegal not, of course.
     
  9. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Does anybody know when they started measuring viewership? Mid-1980s?

    Before 1990, East German homes where not measured which gives an advantage in viewership to post-1990 tournaments. But then again, there were far less tv channels in the 1980s which naturally led to higher viewership figures as people had less choice to watch something else.
     
  10. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    1960s.

    However, the Germany games of the 1990 WC only had a slightly higher market share than the 2006 ones (in West Germany/Germany).

    Extensive statistics on WC viewing in Germany:
    http://www.media-perspektiven.de/uploads/tx_mppublications/09-2006_Gerhard.pdf
     
  11. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    I just started reading that article. Found this here:

    Gleich am zweiten
    Weihnachtsfeiertag, am zweiten Sendetag also, zeigte
    das Fernsehprogramm des NWDR am Nachmittag
    um 14.15 Uhr eine Fußballübertragung: das
    Wiederholungsspiel des Achtelfinals im DFB-Pokal
    SF Hamborn 07 gegen FC St. Pauli. (3) Die Übertragung
    war allerdings nicht live, sondern eine
    Aufzeichnung des Spiels, das kurz vor Weihnachten
    stattgefunden hatte.

    I wonder if that game is still in the NDR vaults? It would be the rarest game ever from a collector's perspective. A 1952 DFB-Pokal round of sixteen game! Incredible thought...
     
  12. F96

    F96 Member+

    Oct 24, 2002
    Skåne
    Club:
    Hannover 96
    Since I had to work till 2pm yesterday, I was in the city during the first half and was really surprised to see how many people actually don't care.

    The city was full and bustling while the German team was playing.

    I don't think that's a bad thing, not at all, it just surprised me a little bit.
     
  13. poorvi

    poorvi Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
    Bombay
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This doesn't belong anywhere else, so I'm posting it here.

    There are a group of renowned astrologers who have taken to predict the WC games.

    This is the prediction for the Japan Holland game.

    http://www.ganeshaspeaks.com/blog_FIFA_World_Cup__South_Africa_World_Cup_Predictions_World_Cup_Matches__Netherlands_Vs_Japan_2532.jsp

    So far they've been way off the mark. So keeping that in mind this game is not going to be interesting at all. A true snorefest.

    You can see their predictions for the other games of the tournament in the link above. Fun stuff.
     
  14. poorvi

    poorvi Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
    Bombay
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  15. poorvi

    poorvi Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
    Bombay
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  16. F96

    F96 Member+

    Oct 24, 2002
    Skåne
    Club:
    Hannover 96
    Ratings for Germany - Serbia: 22.010.000 = 84.8% share

    Slovenia - USA: 7.400.000 = 46,6% share
     
  17. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xLn-X8YJRg&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- Soccer Officially Announces It Is Gay[/ame]
     
  18. DayGrowsOld

    DayGrowsOld Member

    Apr 1, 2010
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...tion-on-four-missing-North-Korea-players.html
    FIFA insist they have no information on reports that four North Korea players have gone AWOL at the World Cup.

    It is rumoured that Myong-Won Kim, Chol-Hyok An, Kyong-Il Kim and Sung-Hyok Pak may have tried to defect and leave the team camp in South Africa.

    The players were listed as absent on the official teamsheet for the game with Brazil but FIFA cannot shed any light on the situation.
    Communications director Nicolas Maingot said: "We have no information on this ・we have only been contacted on this issue by the media.
    "Our media officer with the Korea DPR has said their delegation completely deny these rumours."
     
  19. Chewbaccara

    Chewbaccara Member

    Jan 4, 2009
    Club:
    FC Hansa Rostock
    http://www.theonion.com/articles/south-african-vuvuzela-philharmonic-angered-by-soc,17625/

    "Members of the South Africa Vuvuzela Philharmonic Orchestra, widely considered to be among the best large-scale monotonic wind instrument ensembles in the world, told reporters Friday they were furious over the recent outbreaks of international soccer matches during their traditional outdoor concerts."


    Funny little article on a topic that has been hashed and rehashed. Sorry if this is not the appropriate thread.
     
  20. poorvi

    poorvi Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
    Bombay
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Has anyone else noticed Maicon's sporadic weeping outbursts???:confused:

    As a full back, he is probably the best in the world right now, but his crying ( and unnecessarily at that) is making him look rather stupid.

    He was first seen weeping when he scored that wonder goal against North Korea. I can understand, that the goal relived him and his team of a lot of pressure and the crying was spontaneous and for a seemingly valid reason.

    Next, after Fabiano's second (hand ball) goal against the IC, Maicon is seen crying during the group hug. :confused: What is with that????

    When Elano scored the 3rd one, putting the game beyond any doubt whatsoever, Maicon was crying yet again. What was the need to? It wasn't a match winning goal. That goal didn't matter at all.

    This guy has cried more in this one game than I cried when Jai (Amitabh Bachchan) died in the movie Sholay. And that's saying a lot.
     
  21. ★ ☆ ★

    ★ ☆ ★ New Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Republic of Vanuatu
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    I hadn't noticed any crying, are you sure he is?

    It might be a bit like Badstuber always looking sleepy.
     
  22. poorvi

    poorvi Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
    Bombay
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This is his goal against North Korea. I apologize for the poor video quality and the horrible background score. All other videos have been removed by FIFA. :(

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKcY8OPM6uk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKcY8OPM6uk[/ame]
    From 0:11 till the end, he is clearly weeping.

    This vid is from the game against the IC
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bx3LUfUDW8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bx3LUfUDW8[/ame]
    Here too he is almost shedding tears, around the 0:32s mark.

    Lol. :D


    Edit: Can we embed non youtube vids with our posts??
     
  23. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Football means a lot to Maicon. He probably also got emotional because he wasn't selected, unfairly by the way, for the 2006 squad.
     
  24. F96

    F96 Member+

    Oct 24, 2002
    Skåne
    Club:
    Hannover 96

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