The Theo Walcott Thread [R]

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by TxTechGooner, Sep 7, 2010.

  1. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

    Feb 24, 2003
    i know Ian, how about...

    --------------Carroll---------------
    ---------------------Walcott-------
    Young----Rooney--Gerrard---OX

    get in.
     
  2. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Possibly the single worst defensive team of all time.
     
  3. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

    Feb 24, 2003
    i swear, every post has to be taken so literally on here nowadays...
     
  4. Munchlaxatives

    Aug 13, 2008
    Houston
    To be fair, it's not all that worse than the Lampard-Gerrard midfield.
     
  5. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Rooney could be a decent cm but he's always shit for England, theo could work off that donkey upfront if a game is stretched
     
  6. Cannon

    Cannon Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 2, 2001
    Washington, DC metro
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Hmm. Stats show that Theo creates 1.3 chances per 90min while Gervinho makes 1.8 although I'd admit that the way they count "chances created" is not the way I'd do it. Their assists on a per minute basis are very similar with Theo slightly above but that includes some assists that might meet the technical definition of an assist but few would credit with really creating the chance to score. They are both pretty limited.
     
  7. gunner7

    gunner7 Member+

    Jul 27, 2008
    Sunshine California
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    I'm glad he sign da ting. 21 goals this season. Hopefully, he'll get better and more consistent next season.

     
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  8. Romfordray

    Romfordray Member+

    Oct 24, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    It was a watershed performance for him yesterday. There was a maturity about his game and hustle that I have NEVER seen in him. One selfish shot aside, he was near perfect. We forget how young he still is and we can only hope that he becomes an iconic player for AFC moving forward.
     
  9. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    i think rooney's best position may turn out to be the deeper lying of a front 3.

    .......striker 1.....striker 2.....
    ..................rooney..............
    ..cm1..........cm2........cm3..
     
  10. R9Kevinr9

    R9Kevinr9 Member+

    Feb 2, 2007
    ATX
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    How about the 7-3 Newcastle game? That was his best game imo.
     
  11. darcgun

    darcgun Member+

    Jan 11, 2008
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Shit yet he scores goals?
     
  12. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    not consistently for england for a while...
     
  13. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    he's scored 5 goals and 1 assist over all 4 competitive england games this season.
    in the last 3 seasons he has played 17 of england's 20 games (and he was banned for 2 of those), scoring 11 times with 6 assists
     
  14. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    whats Rooney's record in tournaments for England?
     
  15. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    14 apps, scored 5, avg 73 mins per app.
     
  16. ArsenalTexan3

    ArsenalTexan3 Member

    Arsenal
    Sep 24, 2002
    Jakarta
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    goals or cards?
     
  17. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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    --other--
    so that is 1 in 10 since Euro 2004
     
  18. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    oh, we're picking and choosing bits and pieces and only certain games, along with moving goalposts now? you should have said.
    why not just pick games he hasn't scored in and ask what his record is............
    actually, even better. he was banned for 2 games. he didn't score in those.

    bigman said he hadn't done it consistently for a while. his goals say otherwise.
    you asked what his tournament record was, now you want something else.
     
  19. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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    --other--
    when he said Rooney has been inconsistent for England, I assumed he meant tournaments. I know qualifying is important, but goals against Andora, San Marino, or even Montenegro arent getting panties wet.

    ok, so there were 8 other matches...

    but it doesnt. He has an okish tournament record for England as a whole, but has not produced for them since his very first tournament. I fail to see the issue here.


    FWIW, I think Theo's record for England is even worse, especially since that Croatia hat trick.
     
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  20. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    rooney has scored 11 times in 10 different competitive matches for england over those last 17.
    prior to that he had scored 15 times in 10 different competitive matches over the previous 31.
    as they say, do the math. he's actually getting more consistently productive.

    (i can't stand rooney, so stop making me feel like i'm backing him when i'm just pointing out what has actually occurred)
     
  21. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    but in tournaments he has gotten worse. Thats what we as fans care about.
     
  22. R9Kevinr9

    R9Kevinr9 Member+

    Feb 2, 2007
    ATX
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    .......theo.....walcott.........guys....
     
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  23. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's undeniable that Theo is playing well and having a bit of a rebirth. And I just heard his interview on 5Live:

    Not sure why he's being so coy. Why not just say "I was talking with Wenger/Bould and they challenged me to..."?

    Anyway it's all good... and long may it last!! Three years would be nice... to match the amount of time that this Theo appreciation thread has gone neglected. ;)
     
  24. crazy150

    crazy150 Member+

    Aug 27, 2006
    North Cuba
    It's amazing what a little effort in the defensive side can do for the fans. His numbers are not far away from the last two years and still off from his peak, but adding the Joel Campbell work rate has done wonders for how we perceive him.

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  25. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Point taken, but it's not just the fans who are praising Theo this season. It's the pundits, the critics, the England manager, etc. I guess it falls into two categories: (A) This season is being compared to his last season which was pretty much his nadir, and (B) Stats, or the choice of which stats to list, don't always tell the whole story.

    p.s. I have no interest in getting into an argument about stats. I don't see them religiously as some do. I see them as one of the key tools you can use to assess a player, but as Wenger said in a recent interview "sometimes you just have to trust your eyes". And I might add "your gut".
     

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