The Score's Kristian Jack says "Julian De Guzman says yes to Toronto FC"

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  1. Blizzard Moderator

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    Big things are brewing at Toronto FC.

    After months of negotiations, Julian De Guzman has finally agreed to become Toronto FC's designated player. As this story is published on Friday evening, I can confirm that Mo Johnston is actively shopping players to other club's within the MLS in a desperate attempt to clear cap room for the Canadian international, who has decided that now is the right time to play with his hometown club.

    http://my.thescore.com/footyblog/archive/2009/09/04/25128.aspx
          
  2. ArteEtLabore Member

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    Dang - you beat me to posting this. One thing to stress is that an official agreement has not yet been reached, and the team still has to make cap space for him. But all in all this is very good news.
  3. smenge New Member

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    Now if only Mo could move Barrett I might be a fan again.
  4. Polygong Moderator

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    This would spell the end of Robinson with TFC (he'll probably retire), but I hope it doesn't mean the of Cronin. He's definitely someone we want to keep around.

    I'll still say that I am disappointed, I would like to have seen him stay in the top flight a few more years.
  5. Blizzard Moderator

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    LOL.

    Well, here is the problem as I see it. If we assume Jack has it right, the release of this information has made Johnston's task of clearing cap space much more difficult.

    Every team in MLS now knows that we are desparate to clear space. That means that they can play extreme hardball. The test will be just how desparate Mo is to clear the cap space. i can see other clubs agreeing to take an expensive player from us only if we give them a young player with potential too.

    We can't give allocations, we don't have much in the way of draft choices to give away. What we do have is promising youth.

    This leak was very counter-productive to TFC. Mo has his work cut out for him now!!!
  6. TheChoker Member

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    Well, I'm thrilled to see JDG come to TFC but not without a healthy dose of "screw you". Man, we really could have used his help the last couple of games while he was trying to get a decent contract in Europe. What's the point signing a DP with the amount of games we have left this season? Sorry if my confidence in us making the playoffs is very low, with out without him...

    He gets to play 5-6 games for TFC then we'll end up loaning him to a European team et la Beckham? If that's the case I'd rather Toronto not sign him.
  7. Blizzard Moderator

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    Unless Mo can clear the cap space, JDG isn't going to be here.
  8. Police Boy New Member

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    I'm feeling a little bittersweet about this myself. I'm not that familiar with his level of skill, but from what I know I think he's a very good addition to the team.

    On the other hand, I've felt all along that he's being "using" the TFC offer as leverage in order to get a higher offer from Europe. We have always been second choice and now that the European offer hasn't been forthcoming, he settles for us. Of course I don't know this for sure, but it's the perception I've been left with.

    Adding to the above, it is common sense to believe that if you are going to have a DP, that player should easily be your best and most valuable to the team. While JDG's skill is highly rated, I honestly cannot say that I feel he will become more valuable than DeRo.
  9. Drexel10 New Member

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    JDG is a much better player than DeRo, I like them both, shoot I come from the same neighbourhood as them. The ppoint here is that the role JDG plays already has Cronin, Sanyang(a little early to tell) and Robo(not as much as of late) pretty capable of playing it. This will not be a guarantee to make the playoffs and don't think he is match fit either. If we have to give up decent potential this might be a bad move.
  10. GoodDead Moderator

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    Too little too late for this year.
  11. Blizzard Moderator

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    Probably although, despite that awful display of last night, we're still only two points out of a play-off position (believe it or not).
  12. smenge New Member

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    The way this team is playing they will be very lucky to win one more game this year, against woeful san jose and that is never easy for this team.
  13. GoodDead Moderator

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    we've played more games then many teams we are actually more then 2 points out once they catch up on games played.

    This season is another failure in Mo's laughable 5 year plan. It's Funny Seattle is in it's first year and has a trophy and playoffs well within their sights. It will be truly fantastic next year should the Sounders and Philly both make the playoffs while we are again no where near anything that resembles competitive.
  14. Blizzard Moderator

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    It almost sounds like you want it to happen. Very laudable of you. :rolleyes:
  15. GoodDead Moderator

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    Because I can see it coming means I want it to happen? What in the world would make you believe that next year will be any different from these first 3 years while the same clowns are in charge?
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    The team has improved every year. At 31 points in 24 games We're only 5 points from doing better than last year with 6 games to go; we are doing better than last year. Last year we did 10 points better than the previous year.

    I'm concerned that sacrificing a lot of players by going the DP route isn't going to be the best thing for the team. But attacking Mo on track record is absurd!
  17. smenge New Member

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    I recall in this forum how people slagged LA last season finishing with 33 points (a little less than tfc). This season they already have 38 points and are much better than TFC. How do you explain this?
  18. ArteEtLabore Member

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    Seattle is in it's first year in the MLS. They didn't have to start from scratch as a team.


    Check TFC's trophy case. You'll find the same number of trophies there.


    They're not that far ahead of TFC. They are three points ahead with 6 games left.


    Funny how you left San Jose out of your comparison of recent expansion teams. How are they doing, by the way?
  19. CanadaHolland Member

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    Maybe so but the future looks a little brighter for TFC.
  20. kaos1970 Member

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    I'll reserve my judgement on that until I see who we dump in order to sign him.
  21. TopDogg Member

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    TFC needs more supporters like you.
  22. sportie1 Member

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    if TO signs JDG, then Mo has won back my respect-- after signing DeRo and ali, and now JDG, he has had a very successful year
    2010 will be the year that TO hits their stride with these 3 on-board for a whole year
    add 1 striker who can really score on a regular basis and TO is one of the favorites for mls cup 2010 IMO
    good for TO and canadian soccer- regardless of what the CSA does! they can't screw this up, can they???
  23. smenge New Member

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    DeRo is not the player he was five years ago, but does rate as MO's best trade so far. As for Gerba, he stinks worse than Colin Samuel did and makes me wish we still had cunningham. JDG will be a big help if he signs, but he won't make any difference on a team that has a mediocre defence and woeful group of strikers.
  24. Polygong Moderator

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    Seattle is only in their first year in MLS, the club has been around since 1994. Not even a close comparison.

    I amazed what a difference 3 points makes... Seattle's 34 points makes them a contender for the Cup whereas TFC with 31 points is a bottom feeder.
  25. smenge New Member

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    This argument that you frequently make is moot. I suggest you take a look at the seattle web site and read the player bios section. How many of these current players were with the USL club? The only obstacle facing Mo in year one was the stupid minimum Canadian rule. You need to be comparing Seattle with year one TFC and in that comparison the Seattle wins out no matter how you try to bury the facts: The one area where you are obviously correct, and one that you probably do not want to admit, is that in the area where the 1994 - present team has a distinct advantage is in the ownership and management department. TFC will be forced to replace all the boobs running the team while Seattle goes on to win championships.

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