The Other Teams News and Results Thread Vol. VIII [R]

I currently wear my Thomas Strunz (or "Stronzo" like Trappatoni called him) costume and say Mainz gets relegated, because they lost today, and Bayern is already champion.

( And if Mainz wins at the weekend I wear my Basler costume and say they repeat the performance from last year. )

 

Atleast 96 are bound to do better. Plus S04 generally do well in Europe.

Who have me worried though are BVB. If I'm not mistaken they are in pot 4, which might get them a really messy group.

 

The problem is they won't be seeded and are likely to face a strong opponent (Sevilla, Roma, Tottenham etc.).

 

Spurs will most likely use youth players, Sevilla are doable with some luck.

 

Mainz in Europe

 

Not good from Mainz...I really think Dortmund is going to meet a similar fate in the Champions League groups - can anyone convince me otherwise....please...I hope???? Can/will Dortmund get through????

 

Dortmund in CL

 

They'll either fail miserably or be the dark horses of the tournament.

 

Dortmund in pot 4? That's emberassing.

How about Leverkusen?

 

Dortmund could be in 3 or 4, depending on who makes it through the qualification.

Leverkusen could be in 2 or 3.

If Bayern qualify we could potentially be in a group consisting of Bayern, Zenit/CSKA/Shaktar, Man City, and Napoli. Talk about group of death.

 

They will be in 3rd if Kobenhaven and Bate Borisov don't make it through the playoff.

Leverkusen will be in 3rd unless 3 of Bayern, Lyon, Arsenal, Villarreal, Benfica don't qualify.

 

The seeding is based on the club performances of the last 5 years in Europe. Thus clubs who rarely qualified are badly seeded.

That system indeed does not reflect club strengths well. A better measure could be a combination of smoothed points reached by the leagues performances in Europe (benefits the points gained in the recent past and decrease the influence of old results) and points the club gains for a good finish or a cup win in the last season. But that would probably be too much for the UEFA and it would steal the current advantage from leagues that send almost every season the same clubs to Europe.

 

Dortmund can Have something like

Barcelona AC Milan, Man City and Dortmund

Or

FC Porto, Marseille, Kobehaven, DORTMUND

 

You sure about that? They are the 3rd highest ranked team in pot 4.

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedcl2011.html

 

Dortmund deserve second pot at least, i know how that system works and it's stupid when you look the third pot teams, teams that would get their as**s kicked by Dortmund anyday. And besides it's quite emberassing for the league.

 

That are the pots btw (if all favorites in the qualification (marked with *(round) advance):
1)
Manchester United Eng 151.157
FC Barcelona Esp 141.465
Chelsea Eng 129.157
Bayern München *4 Ger 118.887
Arsenal *4 Eng 108.157
Real Madrid Esp 103.465
FC Porto Por 100.319
Internazionale Ita 100.110

2)
AC Milan Ita 94.110
Olympique Lyon *4 Fra 92.735
Shakhtar Donetsk Ukr 87.776
Valencia Esp 85.465
Benfica *3 Por 81.319
Villarreal *4 Esp 75.465
CSKA Moscow Rus 73.941
Olympique Marseille Fra 68.735

3)
Zenit St. Petersburg Rus 60.441
Ajax Ned 56.025
Bayer Leverkusen Ger 54.887
FC København *3 Den 51.110
Olympiakos Piraeus Gre 50.833
Fenerbahçe Tur 50.510
Manchester City Eng 47.157
Lille OSC Fra 40.735

4)
FC Basel Sui 39.980
BATE Borisov ** Bls 23.216
Borussia Dortmund Ger 22.887
Maccabi Haifa ** Isr 21.400
Napoli Ita 21.110
Dinamo Zagreb ** Cro 20.224
APOEL Nicosia ** Cyp 13.124
Otelul Galati Rom 5.164

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedcl2011.html
(too slow, Hendrik already posted the link)

 

Ah, I thought they are 2nd in pot 4. So they also need Zürich or Odense to qualify.

 

Personally, I am hoping that all 3 teams get piss easy groups, the 3 easiest of them all if possible.

 

i would love to see dortmund get far in the CL....i think they are capable of making at least a quarterfinal (if klopp motivates them to the max, which he probably will)....I think last year they sadly underestimated their europa league opposition.....i doubt they will make the same mistake.


bayern v dortmund final

 

We didn't underestimate the opposition, we just couldn't put the ball in the back of the net for shit!!!!

 

with dortmund winning!!!

 

why yes.....notice the colour theme of the smiley i used....