The Optimist Thread: We have a real chance of WINNING the East

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by Salvatore Giuseppe, Aug 12, 2012.

  1. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This.

    If we'd "gotten hot at the right time", we'd be in first place right now.
     
  2. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not only that, but ******** Ruiz!
     
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  3. loonixxx

    loonixxx Member+

    Chicago Red Stars
    Aug 28, 2004
    Soccer Limbo
    Club:
    Jagiellonia Bialystok SSA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
     
  4. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK, so we won't win the East, but I want to talk CCL.

    Chicago 56 points +5GD
    Seattle 56 +19
    Salt Lake 56 +11

    If all 3 win, then we are not in a good spot for hand me down CCL spots. Obviously if the FIRE make the MLS Cup then there is no need for hand me down spots.

    But I am rooting for Vancouver @RSL this Saturday and LA Galaxy vs Seattle on Sunday just in case we get screwed by a ref and we do not make the Final.

    Because I can’t wait until Joe Public and Tauro FC come to Toyota Park :p :D
     
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  5. Rulas

    Rulas BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 3, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    As much as I want to see the Fire in CCL, I don't think we have the depth for it (not many MLS teams do). Doesn't mean we can't go out and get some more talent though.
     
  6. Andy Zilis

    Andy Zilis Member+

    Mar 9, 2005
    Rochelle, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure who we'd rather have in the first round of the playoffs, NY or DC (assuming of course that we finish in the top 3). NY is pretty cold right now, but I haven't been at all impressed by DC's late run . . . rather than getting hot at the right time, they're getting lucky at the right time. Same outcome, yes, but a run of good luck has no real bearing on upcoming games.


    Remember that the first tiebreaker is goals scored. We're only 1 behind RSL there, so we could potentially win by 3, they win by 1, and we finish above them in the standings. Not likely, so we want Seattle and RSL to lose or tie, but catching RSL is possible even if they win.
     
  7. Salvatore Giuseppe

    May 4, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago
    Despite our recent slide, its worth remembering we are
    6-5-4 (W-L-D) against the teams in the playoffs, including
    5-3-2 against teams in the Eastern Conference playoffs

    By comparison, Sporting is 8-3-5 including only
    4-3-4 against the teams in the East.

    DC is 5-8-3
    5-5-1 against the East

    NYRB is 5-6-6
    4-5-3 against the East

    Houston is 7-6-4
    4-4-4 against the East

    Only the Chicago-DC game could change these records.

    In a minileague table of East 1-5, it would be
    Team Points GP
    1. FIRE 17 10
    2. DCU 16 11
    3. SKC 16 11
    4. NY 16 12
    5. HOU 16 12

    So a win tonight, and Chicago can assert themselves as the best of the best of the East, despite what the overall numbers say.
     
  8. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    See you on Halloween for our last game of 2o12.
     
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  9. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No CCL for us :mad: :(
     
  10. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Only one way to get in now!
     
  11. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK, looking at things with a positive view.

    We probably do not have to worry about bad weather in November.
     
  12. iron81

    iron81 Member+

    Jan 6, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Screw everyone's lack of optimism. I'd be happy to bet any of you on the outcome Wednesday for as much as you want. We're going to be heavy favorites to win Wednesday.
     
  13. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wish I'd bet you each of our last five games. The extra beer money would've come in handy for my tailgating.
     
  14. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    What kind of response is that? If you're so confident, bet him now. He made no claim for the last few.
     
  15. Andy Zilis

    Andy Zilis Member+

    Mar 9, 2005
    Rochelle, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We're definitely the favorite given Houston's road record this year . . . I'm not exactly sure what it is, but I know it's pretty bad. A win would throw us into the middle of the ridiculously unpredictable eastern conference playoffs. The west seems much clearer to me (San Jose or LA . . . whichever wins their series once Vancouver is done with). In the east, I can see any of the four remaining teams after the play-in game (even if it's Houston, but I think they're unlikely to beat us in a 1-off game on the road) having a reasonable chance. Right now, I'd rank it KC, NY, Fire, DC, Houston in terms of probability of making the final.

    And since this is the optimism thread, I'll point out that we would host the final against Seattle, LA, or Vancouver.
     
  16. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A realistic one not blinded by stupid, uncritical homerism or phony "whistling past the graveyard" so-called "optimism".

    Oh come on, when have you seen him predict anything but great victories for us? This is the guy who tried to excuse our recent run of underwhleming performances by claiming that playing well consistently is not important in the play-offs.

    I'm hoping for a repeat of our 3-1 win from last month but if we're going to get it, we'll have to start playing a lot better than we have been lately.
     
  17. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From 3rd place over all and in the #1 spot for the CCL hand me down, to 6th overall, if only Flaco or Oduro score in the chance the had.


    Oh wll the past is the past, now we need a run to the MLS Cup Final.
     
  18. iron81

    iron81 Member+

    Jan 6, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I posted we'd lose the last game against NYRB. Silly me. :D

    I also think our team is going to do worse next year than this year. We're pretty old and we're looking at losing some guys. Which makes it all the more important to do well this year.
     

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