The Official Victor Bernárdez thread

And right behind Bernardez is Bobby Burling!

Is this castrol index really worth anything? Just wondering...

 

I think it's based on alphabetical order, starting with center backs.

 

Vic is way underpaid, even with the bump to 140k this year:

http://www.mlsplayers.org/files/April 1, 2014 Salary Information - By Club.pdf

 

Omfg.. Meanwhile his backup (Hernandez) is sitting on the bench making 213k..

 

Bernardez's salary is really criminal.

 

Well, Hernandez was overpaid, surely, but not dumping him makes sense in terms of him being an experienced defender whose salary was guaranteed, and thus not worth voiding for the sake of a roster spot. In terms of his contributions, though, yes, he has not earned that figure even with his successful run of games last season.

 

I don't understand what you are saying. The salary guarantee benefits the player, not the club. Had Doyle planned properly and the ownership were willing to spend a bit of money, Hernandez could have had his guaranteed contract bought out, freeing up enough cap space to keep Beita. Even without Hernandez we already have 3 reserve CBs on the roster and if at least one of them isn't ready to step up in an emergency then someone is doing something wrong.

 

I don't think buying out the contract would have been the best move whether his salary was off the cap or not considering two starting center backs are expected to be away at various times for national team duty. He's a big cap hit, but he was before this season as well so I don't think that was the biggest factor in whether or not Beitashour re-signed. It seems there were other circumstances that led to their departures as well.

It is interesting that Quakes center backs seem to be among the best compensated on the team. I'm not particularly bothered by it, but even Bernardez at his salary is above most of the guys. Then again, the core of the defense is also basically the oldest unit as well.

 

Wasn't Hernandez a starter until Goodson came on board late last season?

 

he was our starter by default.

 

...and what we got was more "fault" than "de". :--)

 

Yeah, it was de fault of Doyle.

 

Wasnt Hernandez the starting CB during the 2012 SS winning season?

 

Yeah so? He only got 3 clean sheets but did manage to pick up 2 red cards plus an own goal along with his single assist. Compare to Bernardez with 8 clean sheets and 3 goals plus 2 assists.

 

I never compared him to Muma. Im just saying that people act like he's done absolutely nothing. We also dont know what goes on behind the scenes, He has good leadership qualities. Not saying I like his contract, but people act like he's the worst thing ever.

 

I agree that the criticism of Hernandez is excessive. He's been a dedicated center back with a bit too high a price tag, and lately he's had some poor performances (after a pretty darn good 2013, really). There are far worse players that money could have been tied up in, but Hernandez' salary alone is not the burden that it gets made out to be.

All of these things get amplified, of course, when you are paying players who can't contribute due to injury. There's been a lot of that the last couple of years. I think that's been the biggest problem. I understand that you can invest less in players who have some injury history, but it's a tight rope to walk. Is the money you save worth the time lost? Is there a way to predict injury possibilities with any accuracy? You can factor in age, of course, but that won't make up 100% of it. When thinking about those types of things I start to wonder about whether injuries are more common in certain positions, if it's better to rotate players around to prevent injuries, lots of different factors come into play and it gets complicated pretty quickly.

 

He would be okay at a $100k salary but is ridiculously overpaid for a bench depth CB at $210k especially considering Bernardez makes $140k. What other team keeps a bumbling, aging CB on the bench at $210k??? For that matter, what other team keeps 6 CBs on the roster? SIX FRIGGIN' CBs!!! On top of 4 FRIGGIN' TARGET FORWARDS!!! Is it part of a sneaky strategy for the expansion draft?

 

2 of our CB's are leaving for the world cup. And another 2 are prospects. Thank God you're not GM.

 

And whose fault is that genius?

 

So he shouldn't sign world cup players

 

The key to success in MLS is to sign players that are better than the average player, but, not so good to where they get called up for any international duty.

 

Why don't we have players who can fill in for World Cup absences like several other MLS teams without having to take a big hit to the budget? Muller the gimp is on Doyle, and if Sofia can't step up for a few games as a rookie then that is on Doyle as well. And why do we still have Harden ... a bench decoration? And why did we get rid of Gargan, who could play both CB and RB, and was less than half the price of Hernandez? While we're struggling to field an RB, Gargan is getting starts for the Galaxy. Heck, I would have paid Morrow $200k+ and promised him at least 50% starts rather than keep Hernandez. For that price I would have kept Beita as CB depth over Hernandez. I would have kept Attakora with his concussion issues rather than keep Hernandez. Bottom line, Hernandez is worth no more than $100k even as a starter and the fact we are paying him over $200k to ride the bench is on Doyle.

 

The key to success in MLS is to maximize the on-field impact of the salary budget and we ain't doing that.

 

Let's hope he doesn't get carded in the first game against France!