The Official México vs Ecuador Pre/PBP/Post Match Thread [R]

Cuau can be a perfect BENCH for BOFO

Notice how americanistas arent posting too much after this game, because they know Chivas pwned.

One Word: Guardado

plain and simple

The guy singing on the microphone is my cousin cool I was there when he was singing.

i owe you 2 rep in the next 24 and it's not the good kind either.

Hint: it's the red kind.

u can gargle my sack while ur at it

b1tch ass ahhahahahahah


pwnt

lol I don't care I don't even know how neg rep or positive rep works

Resumen del Partido

http://www.dailymotion.com/raul21/video/x1kks1_resumen-mexico-vs-ecuador/1

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Frankly,


Here is my take on this match. I saw this match from beginning. The first goal by Mexico was one of the fastest in the Hugo Sanchez. From a 1 to a 10, I would give the national teams performance against Ecuador an 8. The first half for Mexico, despite the great start duiring the first 30 seconds, was very shaky. The backline line seemed insecure and there was no presence between the forwards and the midfield(i.e. Lopez and G. Galindo to Palencia and Borgetti). I believe that at this point, we have to be convinced that both Palencia and the great Borgetti, are not really fit to be in the next World Cup. As a thank you, I would definitely Borg to Copa America, but as a sub. This would be his last hurrah. The midfield improved itself once Pineda and the other subsititute came in. Guardado was jolted and resucitated the Mexican offensive, along with the Bermuda Triangle of Chivas, Bravo, Medina and Bofo. These guys gobbled up the Ecuadorian defense and gave them a run for their money.



Now, what can we say about this result, which was a 4-2 victory? Nothing much, but to say that the Sanchez Era is running on the right path. The questions are, though, can we maintain that consistency in pefomance? Can we work on the first touch and passing when driving into the penalty box? Can the team attempt more mid-range shots from 30 or 40 yards away from goal? Can the team maintain its performance when Mexico goes abroad to play friendlies or official matches? These are the questions that Hugo must and have to addresses in the remaining three years prior to World Cup South Africa 2010. These four matches that have been played thus far are a very good start, but there is a polishing up that needs to be done at the national team level before Mexico can achieve the goal of winning the World Cup in 2010.


Here is an analysis of the the team in every segment of the field from yesterday's match:

Defense: The central defense: Mexico was very shaky especially Marquez. Marquez, with all the matches in Spain and with the nats, is fatiguing. Maybe it would not be wise to have play both tournaments. I would have him play Copa America only. We would need more of a solid defense to get to the final four. Magallon definitely has a future with the nats. I hope that he can make it reflect it by him going to Europe someday. Rojas, who has been struggling this season with my adored Club America, has played one of his best matches at both the club and NT level. I was very pleased with what I saw. However, I still believe that the inclusion of Mendez, Salcido, Aaron Galindo would make the defense more solid. Finally, what can I say about Ricardo Osorio. Surely, with him going to Europe, he seems more confident, more aggresive and faster. I would love him see try his luck in Spain too someday. Playing in the Bundesliga has done him well.


Midfield: The midfield as of late has been inconsistent. We still lack a "10" and someone who can consistently and accurately make crosses into the penaly box. However, I was pleased to see Guardado wake up and has proven, when he does perform well, that he is destined for great things. However, if he develops more body muscle and is able to work in playing the ball simple, fast touching and believe that he does not have to dribble past two or three defenders all the time, he will be a great player. I think the spanish, Italian or Dutch game would fit him well. Regarding Israel Lopez and G. Galindo, I am sorry, but they are not NT team material. They are too slow and inaccurate. Especially, they would not be a great help to our defense, if they cannot contain the midfield. I still say to put Pardo and Correa as our defensive midfielders and put Torrado or Mendez on the bench. Thanks to Guardado's performance, despite that it was not all outstanding, it was enough to feed both Medina, Bravo and Bofo.


Forwards: What can I say? I would like to say thank you to both Borgetti and Palencia for their years of contributions, commitment and great memories, however, its time to move on and look at other forwards. Yes, Palencia may have scored a goal, but he was non-existent and not really mobile with Borgetti. Also, I think that with the inclusion of Vela, Landin (Nery Craptillo), or Dos Santos we would be playing at Mach 3.

All in all, Kudos to Hug!

You guys complain about your commentators but ours are pure shiite as well.
Tapia is annoying as hell, and Bermudez showing his stupidity by not knowing Valencia played in Wigan Athletic. He made up a name and said he played in Germany. Alarcon also sounded like a bitch.

But enough of that, I thought the game was quite good for Mexico in the 2nd half. I'm dissapointed in my paisano Galindo, not so much in el Enano, as we all know he sucks when he puts la verde on.
However, since Hugo hasn't tried anyone else at that position, I expect one of the two to be in America/Oro. Same with Palencia and Borgetti, both will be there because no one else has been tried.

That's my one problem with the man, but otherwise I'm very happy with him as the coach.

Its been a tough couple of days, but I was able to record the game and watch it just now.

ufff, what can I say.

Ecuador has improved alot over the past couple of years. Their offense would give anyone trouble. But their defense is worse than its been in the past.

Alright our guys

Ochoa- Could have done more on the first goal, but again he shouldn't be in that position in the first place. Had two great saves from long shots. Needs more game experience. If the worst thing you can say about him is that he needs to do better on breakaways than I think he is doing pretty dam good.

Marquez- The Marquez that has played for Barcelona over the past year played yesterday in Oakland. Some of his passes were off and he made bonehead mistakes that Ecuador did not punish him with. Is it me or has he lost a step? Because he never got burned that easily earlier in his career. Having said that after he scored the goal he played better, but it makes you wonder if it was him or the subs Ecuador made.

Osorio- Solid for 90 minutes. After the US game Osorio had me worried about his progress in Germany, but after these two games he has proven to be the most dependable defender we have. If things keep going this way, I wouldn't mind him playing as the centerback. Atleast the defense wouldn't be exposed as much by speed.

Magallon- Really wasn't heard of that much. Had some trouble communicating with Rojas. Both of them had trouble with Valencia and De La Cruz. But overall he didn't f'k up when it mattered and got better as the game went on. I think we found our first defensive sub.

Rojas- Again was exposed by Valencia and De La Cruz, but those mistakes didn't cost us in the scoreboard. Offensively he played well with Guardado. The jury is still out with this kid, he didn't help his chances but he didn't hurt his chances either.

Galindo and Lopez- they got their chance and they f'kn blew it. Next

Guardado- Didn't do crap in the first half, and didn't do anything while Ulises de La Cruz was on the field. Once he had time to maneuver he was a pest. And the kid provides good crosses. He should take all the corner kicks from now on.

Arce- Didn't create any real danger except for the shot he hit right at the keeper. But he didn't hurt us defensively either. I'm ok with him as a sub for el Venado.

Borgetti- Same Borgetti. He should never start with El Tri again. If Hugo must use him it should be when we are behind and we need a goal. Con la pinche suerte de Jared el tendra sus goles.

Palencia- Hopefully the fluke goal does not make Hugo forget the shyt 44 minutes and 30 seconds he played.

Bofo- Man of the match. But after reading some posts on these boards it would seem that we found the new 10. I say calm down everyone, Ecuador's defense is horrid. And its not like Bofo hasn't scored a goal on Ecuador before (ie Mexico 2-1 Ecuador in Copa America 04). Bofo earned a starting spot for the next friendly. Now we have to wait and see whether Cuauhtemoc light can become the new playmaker or was it a one shot deal.

Medina- I think he outplayed Guardado the time he was on the field. Pretty much everytime he touched the ball he beat his guy and did something useful with the ball. Its safe to say that he has the right midfield spot on lockdown for the time to come.

Bravo- Again with the anemic state we are in with our forwards he is probably are best player up top. Which isn't saying much. I liked his runs off the ball, but again lets realize the defense was crap. If Jotovan scored a hat trick on them than you know we had to barrage them.

Pineda- I am of the belief that he should not start with El Tri. The only problem is that we haven't found someone that is good enough to replace him. Jury is still out, he looked good out there, but considering he came in for Gerardo Galindo anyone would have looked good.



I liked that the team came from behind and got the result. Not since the 05 Confederations cup win over Japan can I remember a come from behind win. Slowly but surely we are rooting out the players that shouldn't be there, hopefully Hugo watches the same thing we did.

So who wants to put this game on teh internets so I can put it in my computer and watch it?

I can but show me how to from a dvd.

EL Bofo es Rojiblanco y lo ah sido toda su vida, salio de Tecos claro, pero llego con Papi

Great game by Rojas? pfffffft.... I was oneof the few who thought he had a good game, but GREAT?

No estes celoso

I havent commented on the game since i finished watching the game just today. From the posts ive read so far i think i agree with the majority on some key points but just to add a bit on a couple of observations i havent seen posted here from others is this...

I personally would like to see Mario Mendez back in el Tri who is playing great with Velez in argentina but i somehow doubt that will ever happen since hes a Lavolpe player so to speak!!! still he DESERVES a call up, theres is no way Israel Lopez, Jerry Galindo or israel castro for that matter are better than Mendes !!!!

Also our defense has been horrible, NOT SURE if the late substitutions for the Paraguay game were to blame for that distraction and also NOT SURE if the absense of Salcido has really hurt our defense to the point where we look so vulnerable but in any case we've looked bad and getting Galindo ( sweden ) and Maza a shot to compete for a starting position wouldnt hurt either.

I personally see some good things out of the different formations and rosters that weve seen so far and of course who cant argue with the results? back with Lovolpe we lost many friendlies and that bothered me however we did well when facing real tough oposition and tournaments. Im afraid that these victories are FICTITIOUS! yes its nice to win even the most insignificant friendlies, this usually builds your confidence but can also backfire, id hate for our guys to get over confident because i still see alot of flaws with our team. we havent looked good and DID lose the most important game so far in the Hugo era against the US. So we need to keep our feet on the ground and hope just HOPE that we do well in Copa America.

im not too concerned with Copa Oro, Its one thing to play basically all HOME games because thats what all these friendlies for Mexico have been and so will Copa Oro, its another thing to play without the HOME crowd which will be the case in Copa America Venezuela. Thats why i feel its a waste of time to schedule too many friendlies here in the US rather than playing some of them in Europe or South America.

We came back against Guatemala in the WCQ in San Luis Potosi and against Norway and Paraguay in WC preparations friendlies.

i agree, i think mendez should be called in to play right back and have osorio move back to the middle.

I agree. Who else but Mario to substitue Osorio >? Screw gringo. Mendez would be perfect and he's playing alot better than he ever did in Mexico.

I totally agree, he would be great with El Venado on the right side. He seems to be playing with more huevos lately.

I heard on the radio that the FMF makes over 600,000 per game in the US. They know that they won't make as much anywhere else which is why you never see them play elsewhere.