The Official Boxing Thread VOL IX

cotto vs mayweather, official.

No ordering of boxing pay per views for me in May, official.

People should not order Mayweather's crap until he fights who he's supposed to fight.

I agree with not buying ppv bullshit but I disagree with you saying "who he is suppose to fight"

Dude called out Pacquiao many times and that pussay declined. Not his fault. Blame Bob Arum not Mayweather

The last month in terms of stuff talked about in the press went a long way in telling who does what, who is who, and why that fight has not taken place.

I have, since the first negotiation, not believed that the fight could happen because it would be a day when Arum can do business with Mayweather. Ultimately, that is what it has always been down to.

I will watch but not pay for it and like Pajaro said, the challenge was made and Pacroids and the dirty Judio came up with every f*cking excuse they could to weasel out of the fight. Either way, I'm starting to give a F*ck less day by day if they ever fight

Mayweather issued the challenge, then offered pac very little money as well as may keeping the ppv sales. That is not a real challenge.

Undefeated...and as much money as he makes..the most of any boxer today and does not have a promotor...i think he is allowed to call the shots.

This is a business...and at the end of the day...manny cant be put in the same level as floyd...thats just my opinion.

I think it has much more to do with Arum not doing business with Floyd than pacquiao ducking floyd.

This point is very disputable, as Manny Many Prizes was offered $40M dollars, which is not very little. No other boxer makes that kind of money. Arum himself has never given him half that guarantee.

My belief is that Mayweather was trying to open a negotiation with his offer that excluded Arum. Unfortunately, the leash does not stretch out very far. Pac is Arum's bitch.

QEPD

Dundee is one of the most iconic figures in the sport today and always.

Mayweather v. Cotto has been confirmed. They'll be fighting for Cotto's title at 154lbs.

Glad Mayweather went for this fight. Good for Cotto too.

This was prob the next best thing to Pacquiao. Not paying for it though. Streaming FTW!

Pacquiao was offered $40 million. I think the most he's ever made is 7 million from one fight. He should of took the money and stop being a bitch.

You guys really believe everything Floyd suckerpunch mayweather says? Pac made about thirty five million for his fight with Juan manuel marquez. Seven million is what he made on the night of the fight. It is required by Nevada to earn be paid on fight night. Put in the same situation, would you not expect to make more than 40 million knowing this fight will be much bigger and watched by more people than the jmm fight? Sorry but floyds ppv numbers arent staggering compared to mannys, and last I checked he couldn't even sell out an arena for the ortiz 'fight'. The offer, when considering how much of that manny will beong, was not a real offer. I dont know when Floyd became such a hero around here, the guy is just another Roy Jones Jr who, since moving up to welter has avoided fighting prime fighters his own size. And no, the quitter ortiz doesn't count. This is a guy who beat up his wife in front of his kids, agreed upon a catch weight with lightweight jmm and didn't bother trying to make it, and didn't even fight night weigh out of shame, and a guy who needed to sucker punch ortiz. No I don't believe he really wants to fight manny.

Good article by Steve Kim explaining this little lie that's being spread by Mayweather.

Purse Strings Attached by Steve Kim

Floyd not offering Manny any part of the PPV is kind of crazy, considering Manny sells a lot of PPVs and this fight is slated to break PPV records.

1. Drop your lawsuit against me
2. Make zero on PPV
3. Fight on the date, place and time that I say
4. Take the drug tests (which aren't even an issue it seems now)

Pacquiao ain't Floyd when it comes to PPV, but he isn't Ortiz either.

As for Chavez. I heard he's been getting handled in sparring and he's missed two consecutive media days. On top of that, he's saying Martinez is too old for him... It seems like that's Arum's strategy LOL

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gKWlRlVIQg"]Martínez está viejo para pelear conmigo: Chávez - YouTube[/ame]

See, what I do when these things come out is evaluate what both sides are saying. I do not read guys like Steve Kim because of their obvious slants. In fact, I pretty much stay away from opinion pieces cuz everyone seems bought.

The fact remains that the back end was not discussed, via Mayweather and Koncz. Floyd offered the $40 million and told them that if they accept, the negotiations could begin in earnest. That $40M is the guarantee, the fight night pay. There is no truth to the no revenue story, as far as I have read, once again, via Mayweather and Koncz, Manny's advisor. This is all without Arum's involvement, mind you. There was a counter offer from Top Rank and that did involve Arum. These dudes are just playing games with all.

La fresa is right. Do not believe everything Mayweather says, although it sounds like he is buying what Team PAC is saying and that is also a no no. I think the truth is somewhere in between and a little bit beyond.

i'm definitely not, just look at what i have had to say about pac and arum in the past. but i hate that the sheep now think mayweather is some sort of warrior when he is far from it. if either wanted the fight to be made, it would be made, because in truth they bring about the same amount of money and fans to the table. if mayweather especially actually wanted this fight, really wanted it, if what you guys say about him calling shots is right then the fight would be made. truth is they don't care about being the number one boxer as long as people buy into their image as being number one, floyd running his mouth proclaiming he is better than ali and ray robinson because of his false 0 and manny padding his record with catch weight fights against paper champions. fans buy it, so they continue to sell it. if either one really cared they'd both have accepted sergio martinez' challenge, or would have fought each other years ago, but neither will probably ever happen. floyd will go back to wwf when more challengers his weight and in their prime come around (again) and manny will use politics as an excuse to retire and each at the end of the day, regardless of who they fight, will have more money than they will know what to do with.

Floyd called Manny out several times. What else is he suppose to go to get the fight? He went public on social networking sites and called him out. Manny is a scared bitch. Bob Arum knows that he'll lose the fight and will lose a lot of money out of Manny. He is trying to get as much money as he can from his piggy bank before he retires.

I agree with you that both don't care about being number 1. At the end of the day it's a business and it's about making that paper. Can't hate them for that.

Can Cotto handle Money? I have always hoped it would be a Mexican that would take his 0 but I doubt Floyd would have the b@lls to fight Jr. at 160... and his punk azz is going to retire before Canelo is ready for him

Jr. is a chump and a joke.

Hope he gets wrecked this weekend, but with Margarito in line for the summer, probably not.

Edit:
Really looking forward to the Donaire-Vazquez Jr fight. Looks like these guys were beefing at the presser. Anyone know what their beef is about?

he could have accepted 50/50 when they spoke on the phone. instead he hung up after 90 seconds and started being an e-tough guy on twitter like a 16 year old kid. lol, since when are fights made on twitter.

I doubt Rubio gets a decision against Jr.

Why the hate on Jr?

He is fighting a real fighter on Saturday... Rubio might not be Elite.. but he is the next notch down... lets see what the kid can do... as many advantages as his name has given him. history has proven that being a son of a legend is usually too big of a burden... yet Jr. is making something of himself.