The Official Andreas Görlitz thread

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  1. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
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  2. Revolt

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    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
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    Jawohl!
     
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  3. davez

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    Aug 10, 2000
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    Good news I hope, however, that this isn't the only signing before the season kicks off
     
  4. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
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    This should help assuage the loss of Beita.
     
  5. Marinquake

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    May 26, 2011
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    Good signing...No depth problem at RB with Bark, Andreas and even Cato...Now how about some attack help???
     
  6. sjquakes08

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  7. SJTillIDie

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    Aug 23, 2009
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    Great signing! Good to see us re-investing that allocation money.

    "starting to come together!"

     
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  8. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
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    We have a starting quartet on the back line that should have the skill and composure to pass out of the back and link up with our midfield. Hopefully a lot less panicked hoofing of the ball up field. Now we just need that right winger that can feed our big men and Wondo, and cut inside to shoot. Let's get that other deal done!
     
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  9. staudio

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    Mar 7, 2008
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    Willkommen zu den Erdbebens
     
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  10. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Is this the Quäkes first "umlauted" player?
     
  11. bigdumbgod

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    Jun 25, 2005
    San Jose, CA
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  12. leocal11

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    Feb 7, 2005
    San Francisco
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    ja, ich glaube
     
  13. evade6317

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    Jun 27, 2007
    Savannah, GA
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    San Andreas Gorlitz!!!

    Believe it or not, he his an offensive weapon.
     
  14. Goodsport

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    That reminded me that Görlitz shares the same first name as Q's father Andreas (whose only public appearance thus far was with his son Q during the pregame of Real Salt Lake's first-ever visit to Spartan Stadium the day before Father's Day 2005). :)

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  15. due time

    due time Member+

    Mar 1, 1999
    Santa Clara
    Sorely needed. Barklage was a down grade. Gorlitz looked very good in the Tucson preseason games.
     
  16. Goodsport

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  17. fadedtoblack

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    Nov 6, 2007
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    So you're telling me a team that's owned by the same people as the Oakland A's are signing past-it, oft-injured, wily veterens and hoping for the best? Ya don't say?!
     
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  18. hc897

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    May 3, 2009
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    I wonder how much overlap there is in the A's approach to building a roster and the Quakes. With the A's, there has been a very specific plan to find players with particular skill sets that help them get runs to win games and limit the ability of their opponents to score runs, especially at the Coliseum. In that way, it's not unlike the Quakes making the field a particular size and then building a team around that.

    It would seem that there is a definite plan in place, and certain types of players are being selected for. Some of those players are older, but not all. I think the age things gets overplayed a bit. There have been plenty of young players that the Quakes have signed. They added a good number of them this season, even. The Quakes don't really need to worry about where they fit on the age trend if they are getting the kind of players they want. What they do need to be concerned about is whether or not the players they got and the skills they are looking for are ones that will make them successful. The Quakes haven't had the sustained success that would suggest their methods are truly being effective.

    One missing piece, I think, is an MLS equivalent of Billy Beane. As much as you need a good coaching staff, you need an even better negotiator who understands how much players are worth to the team and how to find what they need at the value they have set. I don't think the Quakes have that in John Doyle. I'm not even sure MLS as a whole has that equivalent.
     
  19. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    This is what I would want to see - a creative soccer ops guy who is innovative and has a plan to try some things to get an edge. I agree that Doyle is not very likely the guy. He seems more like a status quo soccer guy - this is how we do it in soccer, we'll just try to get as many good players as we can, and BTW we're a "small team" so we may not get as many good players as other teams, etc.

    This is kinda where I was going with the "experienced outside backs" theory. It was probably wishful thinking more than anything - that Doyle / Wat had developed a theory about how to get quality into their outside backs with experienced international, possibly older players who can be acquired for relatively cheap. It's a kind of "outside the box" thing that Beane might come up with. Other teams tend to be focused strictly on high-priced attacking players in their international acquisitions (not that the Quakes don't need that also).
     
  20. fadedtoblack

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    Nov 6, 2007
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    Meh, it's just cheaper to build around size and speed (i.e. the two strengths of American soccer players) and hoofing the ball.
     
  21. Quakesss

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    Nov 16, 2013
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    Didn't it work out pretty well with Stewart tho? We got a better player for cheaper.
     
  22. SJTillIDie

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    Aug 23, 2009
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    better player in the short term... while sacrificing the long term
     
  23. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    I see it as a trade off. If you can keep reloading over the short term with quality then the long term isn't as critical in this situation. Not saying that is the best way, but, you can also avoid dealing with the learning curve that you have with a younger player. On the other hand an older player can be more injury prone. Stewart was an immediate and obvious improvement over Morrow. If he can get through this season relatively unscathed and continues to play well I would say it was a good move. Hopefully we get the same result with Gorlitz.
     
  24. Quakesss

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    Just keep reloading every 3 years ;)
     

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