The Official Alan Gordon thread

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by Goodsport, Aug 9, 2011.

  1. Goodsport Moderator

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    Get well soon Alan!
  3. TyffaneeSue Czarina of MP soccer

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    And why are we sending our players out of town for medical treatment?
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    Another injured player selected by Frank & John. Ugh. :(
  5. Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

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    If you read the whole article you would have seen the part where he is going to stay at his home in So. Cal. to recuperate after the surgery. Maybe it was at Alan's request that it be done down there. He is new to this area. More than likely he has friends and or family to help him out down there. Better than being stuck in a hotel room or apartment up here.
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  7. TyffaneeSue Czarina of MP soccer

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    I did read the whole article, and it makes no difference. It's a concern that the team doesn't seem to have an established relationship with a sports medicine doc/orthopedist since our players seem to end up getting treated wherever. This may also explain why we seem to end up with so many injured players -- we don't have a go-to doc that we can rely upon to evaluate our signees.
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    How do you know we don't have a "go to doc" to evaluate signee's? How do you know we don't have a sport's medicine doc/orthopedic specialist? Gordon's injury had nothing to do with the Quakes. The surgeon who operated on Gordon has 40 years of experience. Perhaps the Quakes doctors recommended him. Opara initially broke his foot just running. How do you prevent that?

    Have you ever looked at the injury reports for other teams? They are often as extensive or more so than our own.
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    Friends and family to help out with his recovery? Just a guess.

    Ah! This one you can't blame on Frank and John. The docs in Toronto examine him and said he was fine. When he got here, our guys took a look and said no. We ought to be owed some compensation from TFC. They either lied about a player's health so as to unload him, or they are just flat incompetent.

    As Earthshaker points out, other teams have plenty of injuries too. Some are just odd injuries picked up in practice. Some are nagging things that should be rested, but instead coach asks the guy to play. (I'm looking at you Frank!!)

    That said, we have fitness issues this year, again! We need a fitness coach. Other teams have fitness coaches (Philly for one), we should too. And we need a new coach and GM for certain!

    GOOOOO QUAAAAAAKES!!!!!!! :(
    Fire Frank and JD!! :mad:

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    who cares??? it's alan "i just scored a goal so i'm now indispensible" gordon...the goats are about to acquire freddy adu and we're quibbling over alan gordon....lovely....when are we gonna call up matt carson and steve tolleson??
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    Because we are not about to sign Freddy Adu, or any name player. I'd bet money that Frank wanted Alan because Alan played for Frank with the filth.

    I think you have to admit that dumping RJ on the Hosers for Attakora, Peterson, and Gordon was a good move. Really, we have to give JD and Frank props for that move.

    On the other hand, we should have signed Rolando Fonseca when we had the chance two or three years ago. We ought to be looking at National Team players for various countries. We ought to be scouring quality leagues where we can afford a player or three. But we either aren't, or we look, but don't buy. I don't know whether to blame Frank and JD (my first choice) or Lew and John Fisher (my third or fourth choice). Even if St. Lew is tight with the purse strings, it is incumbent on JD to persuade Lew to cough up the necessary cash. Frank and JD think small, and that's why we are mired in the cellar.

    And if JD can't get the money he needs to build a quality team, then he should damn well quit. It can't be any fun losing when you know you have an arm tied behind your back.

    GOOOOOO QUAAAAAAKES!!!!!!! :(
    Fire Frank and JD!!! :mad:

    - Mark
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    1. Many athletes go to that facility in Santa Monica, they are top notch and know what they're doing for athletes to get back to playing asap. You're lucky he didn't go over to Germany like many soccer players do for that kind of injury!

    2. He's from around there. Not sure about you but if I was having two hernias and an abdominal wall injury repaired, I'd want family and friends nearby to help me out emotionally/physically.

    :)
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    Yeah, but you're a galactoscum fan, so what do we care what you think?! ;)


    No thanks. While we do have top notch medical facilities in the Bay Area, and plenty of expert sports medicine places, Alan's going to have some recovery time just lying about. So it makes sense that he does this "at home," especially when home isn't that far away, and he probably hasn't completely moved into San José yet. (Can you imagine moving your stuff with a double hernia?! Yikkes!)

    Get well soon Alan!!

    GOOOOOO QUAAAAAAKES!!!!!! :(
    Fire Frank and JD!! :(

    - Mark
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    You should read that other link that Goodsport posted. It talks about how Frank "didn't know" the extent of Alan's injuries and that physicals aren't required on inter-league trades. And yet, read this from that story:

    Gordon said that he felt he was "misdiagnosed" by TFC's medical staff, and was frustrated that he hadn't had surgery sooner after struggling with pain for three months.

    This makes me think that as bad as the Quakes sports medicine support probably is, maybe TFC's is worse. I assume he was advised to get the work done in LA by his buddies down there. Supposedly according to Grant Wahl's book, Gordon became friends with Landon and Becks.

    John Schrader had originally said during the game that Gordon had a double hernia. I don't know if that's the same as doubly torn adductors. But I'm just thinking of that other guy we took from LA the first year, who had a sports hernia. I forget his name, but he never recovered.
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    This is an aside, but during the portland game, they pointed out that it was the first game back for a 22-year-old timbers players who had torn his Achilles tendon in February! Now either they have genius medical care in Portland, or that's a guy who becomes crippled in the next 2 months. It'll be interesting to see how that works out. Maybe we should send our players to Portland for their surgeries...
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    But, on the other hand, Gordon said that when doctors in San Jose examined him it was immediately clear what was wrong with him. So, it kind of looks like Frank and JD initially took TFC's word on what was wrong with Gordon, and then had our doctors here look at him when it was apparent there was more going on. It looks like the doctors in San Jose that the Quakes used were quite competent, they just should have engaged their services prior to the trade going through.
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    Players generally have to pass our physical for the deal to be final. We've rejected a couple of guys that way over the years. Intra-League trades may be different, or they may have decided that they wanted Flash in any case. Frank has signed several guys that he used to coach, including Glinton, Glen, Gordon, Ribeiro, Corrales, Cannon, a few more. So, it could be that our team decided to overlook the misdiagnosis, or it could be that we are trying to get some further compensation out of the Hosers. Or maybe, we're just too stupid to demand that they cough up a draft pick or eat some of our salary cap (Wait! we have a ton of cap space. If we aren't going to use it, getting them to eat some of it is no help.). Yeah, maybe we're just stupid.

    GOOOO QUAAAAAKES!!!!!!!

    - Mark
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    It's totally understandable that he'd want to recuperate at home. But after MJ mentioned that the team used to tout its relationship with the PAMC and no longer does, I looked around at various local sports med websites. They all mention the teams with whom they work, but nowhere did I see the Quakes. So I don't know if this is a PR issue, or if the FO is too cheap to develop a relationship with a local doc or clinic. Doesn't mean that the player can't have a procedure done elsewhere, but you'd want to work through your known quantity specialist, and also have that person interacting with whoever was treating your player. Do you prefer to take your car to the same mechanic who's a straightshooter and does the work for a reasonable price or do you throw darts at the yellow pages (I know, I am dating myself here!) when your car needs work?
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    I've always hated the guy, especially cause' he played for the Suck. He has, however, played with more balls in the few games he played for us than most that have been on this team MUCH longer. He actually looks like he wants to win and got pissed at a few Quakes who looked timid.

    Hated him and Lenhart when they were with other teams. Now and I want em' both back, healthy and wanting to win.
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    Excellent!
    Just what we wanted to hear.

    We should be hearing about other players being re-signed too. Everyone was out of contract or in their option years.

    GO QUAKES!!

    - Mark
  22. JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

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    Meh, Gordon gives the team some depth, but should not be starting over Lenhart IMO. Hopefully they will push each other to get better. Gordon scores a goal about every 300 minutes whereas Lenhart scores about every 220 minutes. Gordon commits fouls at a rate of about 2x the rate that he is fouled. Lenhart's FC and FS are more even. Gordon does seem to get more assists than Lenhart though. Both play with a certain amount of passion and are relatively tall targets, although Lenhart looks taller than he really is due to his hairstyle :).
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    I think this is great news for us and we're actually deep at forward now; but oy vey it just looks wrong to see Gordon in a Quakes kit given how long he played for the Galaxatives.
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    While I'm not going to get excited by the signing, I like it and believe that he will fit in better with Frank's plan. He wants a target forward to pair with Wondo who is a box guy and have speed on the wings.

    I think Gordon's game has evolved over the years. His run's seem better timed and his passing as a target fordward has improved. He will provide good depth for the team.

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