The Nemanja Vidic Thread [R]

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Dark Savante, Aug 26, 2008.

  1. sdotsom

    sdotsom Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 27, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Think you're not giving credit where it's due though. Vida quietly cuts out alot of the attacks that the un-creative sides throw at us, which is about 60-70% of the league. Not that Rio can't do it, nor the kids, but there will be many more mistakes.

    This really hurts.
     
  2. pgr17

    pgr17 Member+

    Sep 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    from @nickcoppak:

    #mufc goals conceded in 2011/12. With Vidic (5): one every 149 mins. Without Vidic (20): one every 67 minutes.

    The only goal #mufc conceded in 2011/12 in games Vidic played the full 90 mins was the contentious penalty v Newcastle.

    Vidic won 83% (15 of 18) of the aeriel duels he contested in #mufc's last five league games.

    Last Sat v Villa, Nemanja made 19 clearances... three shy of the total made by Villa's entire back four.
     
  3. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I expect us to go on 2 or 3 unbeaten runs of 6-8 games from here on out and our defense will be solid. You heard it here first.

    Those stats are a very small sample and disregard the fact that when Vida was missing earlier on we were also missing our best midfielder and other defenders as well.
     
  4. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Partly bullshit.

    None of our defenders bar Vidic are consistently good at dealing wiht an aerial bombardment.
     
  5. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    correct... never suggested otherwise. Vida though, wins aerial duels with authority quite often. however you don't have to win aerial duels with authority to frustrate aerial bombardment, you just have to put your opponent off balance or deflect the path of the ball.

    Jusdas Iscariot was quite good at this.
     
  6. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Yes. But no-one else we have consistently does that either.
     
  7. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Smalls is good, but not on Vida's level with aerial bombardment backs against the wall defending. He doesn't quite have Vida's timing and aggression, yet. This coming from a fan boy too.

    Where Smalls shines is his 1 v 1 ability against a variety of strikers, including aerial battles. That is a different skill than aerial bombardments into the box, where timing and first to that ball is paramount.
     
  8. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    both good points.
     
  9. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    Why should our backs be against the wall? :confused:
     
  10. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Because the rest of the team is not going to get massively upgraded overnight.
     
  11. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Because that will inevitably happen at times throughout a league campaign. No team goes through an entire campaign without having to battle sustained pressure against them.

    Even more so when you've got a team with an average midfield who struggle to retain possession, like ourselves.
     
  12. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    -------------------Rooney
    Welbeck--------------------------------Nani
    --------------------Clevs
    ------------Carrick---------Jones
    Evra-------------------------------------Rafael
    ------------Rio------------Smalling
    --------------------De Gea

    The only teams that could probably back that against the wall would be Real Madrid and Barcelona.
     
  13. sdotsom

    sdotsom Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 27, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Do you actually think that? What are the chances that we ever hit the heights of the beginning of this season any time soon? Rooney hasn't scored a league goal since September.
     
  14. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Lebanon
    I like you
     
  15. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Moreover, as we have already seen, half of them are either going to be injured or out of form at any point in the season.
     
  16. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    What do you think about pushing Jones along side Clev with Carrick squarely in front of the back four. I am going for more sustained pressure on the opposition ealy i nthe build up and Carrick would have both Clev and jones in front of him without covering for Jones when he pushes forward.

    --------Clevs----------------Jones

    -----------------Carrick---------

    Thoughts??

    (Either way I like what you have there)
     
  17. IWannaTalkToSamson

    Apr 26, 2009
    Maryland, USA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was thinking either of those would be a formidable lineup, especially with the front three interchanging.
     
  18. Futbol_Head

    Futbol_Head Member+

    Manchester United
    Aug 18, 2007
    Bay Area, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Definitely want to see Clevs, Jones, and Carrick in the middle at some point this season. Not sure how well it would work against the more formidable teams...but seeing as we aren't in the CL anymore, worth a shot.
     
  19. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    I think that can work just fine.
     
  20. urbnzy

    urbnzy Member+

    Aug 13, 2007
    Slovenia
  21. yikchi

    yikchi Member+

    Aug 11, 2004
    Garden State
    ^^
    Was going to post the same article; I thought it was a fair assessment.
     
  22. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    Here's what someone said in the comments for that (good) article:

    Like Carrick perhaps?


    Smdh.
     
  23. Republic of Mancunia

    Aug 24, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Interesting comment from Gary Neville on the Monday night football, saying that Vidic is the best central defender he's ever played with.
     
  24. Dark Savante

    Dark Savante Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Become the Tea Pot!!
    Not being funny, but that's what you'd expect from a no-nonsense kind of player who was more heart than skill, himself.

    Vidic is the epitome of what Gary was all about.

    Wouldn't be surprised if Rio's not even in his top 3 if not 5 cos of the perceived lack of bravery and aerial prowess.
     

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