o:O. Rio inspires the defense with his presence but he is hardly a force of nature. He very rarely pushes himself and the rest of the defense up the pitch when we are chasing a game which is what a Keane was great in doing. What you meant was "Keane or Robson" btw, did you see the Vidic+Evra 5 year videos? I think Vidic is a lot more articulate than people give him credit for.
Yeah that's exactly how I see it as well. Let's look at the players that are usually on the pitch - Nani - still immature and playacts Rooney - still a hothead at times Valencia - doesn't have the force of personality, don't know about his English either VDS - hard to have a keeper be the captain Vida - captain Evra - still a bit crazy, doesn't really seem to be a leader on the pitch Carrick/Fletch - meh...maybe Fletch in a few years, Carrick seems to passive I guess Vida is the best choice of our regular players. It's not an issue that matters, as Fergie stamps his personality on the team regardless. But it does feel like we don't have a captain out there.
I imagine Valencia's english is pretty poor since he's not meant to have a very strong grasp on Spanish even to start with
My take on communication with the V-1000. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY_N2ewiCsQ"]YouTube - Albert Pujols - The Machine commercial[/ame]
His problem isn't meant to be with speaking, but back when he signed for Wigan it was stated that he didn't have much of a grasp on written language due to his circumstances while growing up. I'll try and find the source
"He used to attend English lessons with Hondurans Maynor Figueroa and Wilson Palacios before the latter’s move to Spurs. Manchester City’s Felipe Caicedo and Segundo Castillo of Everton joined them but Valencia still struggles with English and his written Spanish is limited. Steve Bruce, who inherited Valencia at Wigan, said: ‘He struggled with it, but it didn’t matter. You knew you could just put him on the pitch and he would pick it up.’" That's what I was referring to, maybe things have changed since? But I have a feeling not
Not sure where some of this is coming from. Vidic talks as much as anyone on the field?? He's always directing the players, especially the defenders. It's just in comparison to Rio, that he defers some of that communication, but that isn't a slight against him. Vida is a fine captain. Maybe not a Keane or Robson, but that's more of a credit to them than anything.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvOjSpZGxs4"]YouTube - Vidic and Evra - 5 Years (Part 1)[/ame] [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsXmIeEKUzw&feature=related"]YouTube - Vidic and Evra - 5 Years (Part 2)[/ame]
Of course....that guy is an ignorant. Valencia speaks perfect Spanish, we speak Spanish here in Ecuador, yes.... What a clown that guy who posted that haha....
Respuesta: Re: The Nemanja Vidic Thread [R] i think Vidić is a good captain a lot of people associate a good captain with being vocal for whatever reason. a good captain can also lead by example which is what Vidić does. (yea he has rash moments so what)
hahahaha I have met Valencia too...are you trying to be more ignorant? Because this is beyond ridiculous. I have talked to him before on the Airport. Plus do you know Spanish is the first language in Ecuador? EVERYONE speaks PERFECT Spanish here obviously. The only minorities that speak Spanish but not perfect are some indigenous tribes that live in remote areas. Who will know better me or Steve Bruce??? Hmmmm MEEEE, yes because I am Ecuadorean and Spanish is my first language, and this is my country, and I have talked to Valencia in person like I said and have seen him in 10000 interviews. And Steve Bruce's first Language is not Spanish. So yes He speaks PERFECT Spanish. You seem to be Australian, beautiful country by the way, I have been there. Ecuador is even more beautiful though Anyways, it's as if I would just start to argue to you something like....Viduka of Kewell don't speak perfect English, althought they obviously do since they are Aussies and you have heard them speak hundreds of times, but I have heard somewhere that a Spanish coach (per say) of them said that they don't speak fluent English and I come to this board and start to stubbornly argue to you that they don't speak perfect English! Nonsense and total ignorance.......
Whoa buddy. HolyJoe backed up his assertion with a direct quote from Bruce. So why are you going off on him? I'm glad you've met Valencia and seen him on TV and what not, but I think his manager would also be a pretty solid source of information on him. You need to back off a bit.
Its not really about speaking Spanish as he clarified. It was just pointed out that his written Spanish isnt perfect.
Im happy a defender won an award. Not sure the precedent with regards to that particular award, but congrats to El Capitano