The Nani Thread Vol. "He's Still Better then You": Either you like him or you're Racist! [R]

Yeah Quaresma is at a real powerhouse over there in Turkey. I'm not arguing that he plays in a bad league. You guys are making arguments over stupid issues. Look at the last two years of them and tell me who has been better.

No argument, just discussion. Your initial claim wasn't even that Landon has been better than Quaresma the past two years. You were saying that he's simply a way better player than him which is absolutely insanity. Even if you were comparing their last two years, one player played in the MLS while the other was trying to win a spot on starting XI of the current European champions. Not much room for comparison.

My inital claim is that Landon is better than Quaresma. Not that LD was better than Q7 2 years ago, but hell, a lot of things were different 2 years ago.

Also, how much did Q play this world cup? How many goals? How many goals did Q have during his tenure at Chelsea, which was longer than LD's at Evertons? Does Quaresma have more skill than LD, absolutely? Roberto Carlos had more "skill" than Maldini...would you say he was better? If you told me you had more skill than Landon i'd believe you, but LD is better than Quaresma now, and has been post Confed Cup 09.

1) As previously stated, Quaresma played for Inter Milan. European Champions. He didn't find room to play thus didn't go to the World Cup. Being on a squad like Inter would automatically place him on most squads for the World Cup (like Onyewu) but we actually have a lot of competition at winger thus he didn't make it. Had he been American he'd have a spot in the starting XI waiting for him.
2) See above.
3) Can't compare competition at Chelsea to Everton.
4) Yes, absolutely without a doubt and I bet you'd find it hard to find 5 people that say otherwise.
6) Roberto Carlos may have had more technical skill than Maldini sure, but... they were defenders? Skill comes in handy when you're a winger especially since your facing fullbacks 1 v. 1 plenty of times.

Quaresma's experience in Italy was nothing short of a failure. Don't act as if it wasn't his spot to lose when he first got there. He was handpicked and lost his spot. Last year he sparingly found his way onto the roster, never mind actually on a pitch. Hell, Donovan was more of an impact in a third of a season in the EPL than Q was for a year and a half in Serie A, and a half a year EPL. You're agrument is that a fringe player for European Champions means your better than someone who's played like Donovan for the past year and a half is nothing short of...well...just dumb.

Two years ago I would have never made this argument.

Whatever the case Nani is better than these two, though LD can play at that level as seen this summer. Not two years ago.

Pretty clear we're thinking differently here. Agree to disagree.

For what it's worth, Wenger is also "impressed with Nani's development":

http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=229508

Maybe it has a little to do with what Nani did to Clichy & company last they played... ;-)

Reviled by a Liverpool paper? In the news every other day?

Ever more evidence of his transformation into CR - Part Deux.

I fail to see how anyone but the referee can be blamed for that misunderstanding. Actually, I can see how the goalie can be blamed as well.

lmao torres and kuyt did the same thing last year.... in fact that one was even worse because the ref allowed torres to take it to go even tho the player was clearly kicking it back so his GK could take it...

Anybody see Nani's injury today? Just saw that he was subbed early after the game was stopped for his injury.

Gomes and Redknapp put a hit out on him.

And Donovan RULES!!!!!

3 topics in one post....oh, yeah.....

summed up perfectly.

and i hope Nani's injury isnt serious

Gareth Bale is better than NANI. Haha!

To be fair, Nani has not had a chance at Maicon. There are/were a few people questioning Maicon's defensive movement even last year and there is talk that several left-wingers have torched him this year. That being said, Bale's humiliation of Maicon was

Apparently, at some point, Bale was eligible to play for England... What they wouldn't give to get a 2nd chance at grabbing him...

Also, one more point about Nani v. Bale. Regardless of Bale's domination of Maicon, Nani's stats are better. For example, for the season so far (from ESPN):
Nani: 19 games, 8 goals, 9 assists.
Bale: 18 games, 7 goals, 2 assists.

Also, Bale was completely shut-out by MU over the weekend. Don't get me wrong - I think he's very good - but the English media hype machine is going to inflate his quality a bit now.

I think so. I won't agrue anyone saying Nani is better, but I think so.

He went AT Maicon AND Lucio and made them look like amatures. He is AWESOME

I think the positives outweigh the negatives.

Exactly. He's good but let's not crown him just yet.

And don't forget he had the advantage of playing a team coached by Benitez. Mourinho would never have allowed Maicon to be exposed like that - twice!

LOL I'm sorry but I've been hearing that Maicon and Lucio are "the best in the world" for too long to hear that its not a big deal that a 21 year old just made them look sick.

And my two cents...Lucio sucks. Never saw waht people see in him. He's dirty and just not a very good soccer player. How people say he's better than Carvalho is beyond me.

I honestly don't think it's even close.