The Michael Carrick thread! [r]

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by benni..., Sep 17, 2006.

  1. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    If every Roma player is inside their own half, and the defenders are sitting deep, what space is there for our attackers to even get into and Carrick to find them?

    This is up to our attackers to come and make something happen. Pulling players out of position with their movement. If Ronaldo is standing open Carrick can find him, but what point is there passing the ball to him when as soon as it gets close, he's going to be closed down?
     
  2. Vermont Red

    Vermont Red Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    Brooklyn
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    If I could answer these questions, then I'd be a DLP.

    Seriously though, WWPD. What would Pirlo do? I doubt that he'd sit back and pass back and forth to Gattuso and Seedorf (or whoever). I know Carrick's job is a little different as he doesn't get the keys to the midfield, but he's got to make something happen. It's like you with women: If they won't give it, sometimes you have to take it. Carrick needs to try to force the issue sometimes.
     
  3. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
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    No means no

    do i hear jail-bait?
     
  4. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Pirlo was an attacking midfielder when he started playing and he has played there on numerous occasions for Italy, and the Olympic team when he was being called up. His mind set, skill set, etc is more exspansive than Carrick.


    Since Carrick cannot be given the keys, I like him the way he is now.
     
  5. Vermont Red

    Vermont Red Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    Brooklyn
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    Manchester United FC
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    I'll agree that he's better than the alternative. I'd still like to see Carrick try to impose his will. If he doesn't then he's in danger of losing his position to an inferior player.
     
  6. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    The person who makes that change will be making the club suffer with a decision like that. [in regards to an inferior player]

    But like I said he was never going to be the 1st name on the team sheet to begin with.
     
  7. Vermont Red

    Vermont Red Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    Brooklyn
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    United States
    What is your dream lineup for the current squad, assuming everyone is healthy?
     
  8. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City

    ---------Foster-----------
    ----Ferdinand--Vidic---------
    Neville----------------Evra--
    ---Hargreaves--Carrick------
    -Ronaldo--Tevez/Scholes----Rooney
    ----------F. Torres-----------

    With Scholes playing further up, if he could get back in that mind set.
     
  9. Vermont Red

    Vermont Red Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    Brooklyn
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    United States
    What if Torres wasn't available?
     
  10. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    I was going to put Saha, but you did say fit...
     
  11. Stud83

    Stud83 Member+

    Jun 1, 2005
    And Foster, Neville and Hargreaves actually make the fit team?
     
  12. Vermont Red

    Vermont Red Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    Brooklyn
    Club:
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    United States
    Yet you included Hurtgreaves. Interesting.

    By the way, I like that lineup.
     
  13. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
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    This goes hand in hand with Ferguson's expectations of Carrick since he joined. He said he'd make more of Carrick than just a DLP. I was under the impression that he's on his way there and last year (or earlier this year, I can't recall exactly) I said he'd directly replace Scholes and play a more attacking role. I think I'll still stand by this statement but I also think and I'm more certain about this now than ever before, is that we won't really see this aggressive Carrick until Scholes is out of the team, and a Hargreaves is in. This will allow Carrick to force himself up. He isn't a Pirlo and his game is definitely not as expansive, but then again we have seen instances of him freed up (Roma at home last year for example) and what he does is pretty neat. I have no doubt he can do that once he plays with Hargreaves or any type of enforcer.
     
  14. Vermont Red

    Vermont Red Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    Brooklyn
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    Manchester United FC
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    United States
    I don't disagree, but I still want to see Carrick take more control, Scholes or no Scholes.
     
  15. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
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    If he does, it will make our team that much more vulnerable. It's a catch 22 ( I think) We can't rely on Scholes for backup for a box-to box Carrick.
     
  16. Vermont Red

    Vermont Red Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    Brooklyn
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    Manchester United FC
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    United States
    I'm not talking about box-to-box, just dictating play a bit more.
     
  17. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    ok, I misunderstood then. By taking control, I want Carrick to go up more and make those plays from just outside the box (Like Pirlo)
     
  18. pgr17

    pgr17 Member+

    Sep 26, 2003
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    out for six weeks :(
     
  19. Dark Savante

    Dark Savante Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Become the Tea Pot!!
    Err, so much for this discussion then.

    That's put us in a precarious position. Bad for Carrick as well because by the time he gets back a new first xi may have been formed and more importantly, settled.

    These things always happen at the worst time for players.
     
  20. sdotsom

    sdotsom Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 27, 2005
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    Manchester United FC
    Holy god, I just saw this. Carrick out for 6, Hargreaves for a month..

    Do we draft in O'Shea until Fletch is back in 3 weeks?
     
  21. MUFC_BARLOW

    MUFC_BARLOW Member

    Jun 24, 2006
    Chorley
    I dont think it will be TOO much of a problem.
    Wigan at home, villa away and Boro at home aswell as away to Dynamo Kiev, before Hargreaves is back.

    I think Anderson mite start along side scholes against wigan.
     
  22. Vermont Red

    Vermont Red Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    Brooklyn
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    Manchester United FC
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    United States
    This sucks. Does anyone know when Gibson will be back?
     
  23. BusbyBabes

    BusbyBabes New Member

    Jun 30, 2007
    Up North
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    Manchester United FC
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    England
    He broke a toe while playing against Sporting Lisbon youngsters about two weeks ago so it could about six weeks:(
     
  24. Potomac Red Devil

    Aug 12, 2003
    Indiana
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    Manchester United FC
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    United States
    Perfect time to get Anderson plenty of PT.

    Sucks for Carrick.
     
  25. Rei de Boston

    Rei de Boston New Member

    Mar 16, 2004
    Too bad for Carrick. Maybe Anderson gets more time but I think a Scholes Anderson midfield is way too light defensively. I think it is more liekly O'shea plays centrally and if Wes is still out either Simpson or Pique slots in the back.

    What about Pique playing in midfield? Didn't he play there some for Zaragoza?
     

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