It's ridiculous how many gold medals China has. The US is more equally represented on the podium though.
Mod note: Keep this thread on topic about the olys. While the CL is a fair comparison, you guys are taking it too far off topic.
[roykeanes_safc]That's just dumb.....if one country won 1 Gold medal, it means that country was the winner in one event. If a country won 20 silver medals, it means they are losers 20 times over! Silver simple means your the 1st loser![/roykeanes_safc]
: 3000m final, the leader of the pack is a lap ahead of everyone and only has 50m to go, by your reasoning -- since ONLY Gold matters, and Silver and Bronze promotes crap, the rest of the pack should just walk to the finish line then right? Since there's absolutely no reason for them to continue competing. Because people like you don't want to see people breaking their neck to finish 2nd or 3rd.
Erm obviosly not, there will still be Personal Bests and Country Records to aim for. Do you think footballers keep World Cup runners up medals, Champions League runners up medals or Premier Legue runners up medals? I bet the ones that do are the footballers that have won very little in their career. Trophys and medals are for Winners not Losers.
So would a team that reached 5 world cup finals but lost each time be more impressive than a team that has actually won it in their only appearance? I think a lot of people dont understand how the top 1% of athletes in any sport are special because they are the best. It takes that extra something to be the best which isnt easy to produce. To suggest a number of second or third places finishes equates to one first place finish is wrong.
But you are suggesting that a country like, say, Bhutan that sends 1 athlete and gets one gold, should be ranked higher than S. Korea, or Portugal or Norway simply because S. Korea, Portugal, or Norway didn't get as many golds? Again, I go back to my earlier comment. The scale should be done on points - either 4,2,1 or 3,2,1. To reward gold primarily rewards countries like China and Australia that have government sponsored programs to train Olympic athletes and hurts those countries that don't (I would say Netherlands or UK, but I don't know if they have government sponsored programs).
We (Italy) are failing miserably, lots of unexpected debacles in sports where golds or at least medals were considered a given. I must say I'm impressed by Great Britain, they surely are preparing themselves the right way for London 2012....great program in track cycling.
All I know is the US has the most medals, and is second in Gold behind China. China though, wins medals that no one cares about like Womens Air Pistol. WTF???
The most pathetic excuse for an Olympics 'sport' has to be f*cking trampoline. Why in the hell is that in the Olympics? Equestrian is up there too.
Firstly, losing in the World Cup is in not always comparable to getting Silver or Bronze in the Olympics, it all depends on the situation. Secondly, in response to no one remembers who finishes second.....Richard Thompson who won silver in the 100m final and nearly had a heart attack after his celebrations.... tell that to Trinidad & Tobago, whose papers were covered with Thompsons picture. Did you watch the 100m hurdles? Did you see how Australians Sally McLellan reacted to her SILVER? Yea, she definitely didn't care her 1st losers medal. And I'm sure Australia is disappointed she didn't get gold Benjamin Boukpeti of Togo? Winning the first medal in his countries history?.....in KAYAKING!!!!!...But meh....he got Bronze, forget him. (Can you really compare ^^THIS^^ to say, France accepting their runner up medals?) Although the Olympics is about WINNING, and winning the Gold, by having only a Gold medal, you kill a lot of the special moments, memories, and emotions in the Olympics.
Agreed, what a ridiculous sport. Sport is actually being kind to it. This is like rhythmic gymnastics. Keep baseball and softball and get this crap out of here.
Great post!!! Richard Thompson was going crazy, and he had every right too. He at least made it a race the first 50 meters, him and Bolt were ahead of the pack. Bolts top speed though is redicuolous. Anyways, great post. Rep coming your way.
I don't agree that it "promotes crap". Many of these olympic athletes sacrifice their childhood to be supremely good at some athletic event. They deserve some reward even if they make one slip-up at the key moment and finish second or third-best. So I like the Gold-Silver-Bronze idea for the olympics. Although it would be inappropriate for the Champions League or most other competitions, it does work for the olympics. But obviously any ranking system that equates a Gold to a Bronze is stupid and probably just done to fool people. Same here. Although I could *live* with some second-place teams qualifying just to round-out a 32-team field. How do you know that CFR Cluj is crappy unless you give them a shot in the qualifying stages or group-stage of the Champions League? Just because they're not a big named club and don't attract glory-hunting tossers like Brasil and Barcelona do, doesn't mean they are rubbish. Two Romanian teams reached the UEFA Cup semifinals recently.
erm is this a woosh, England have performed very similar to the Dutch in the past 20 years, how are the Dutch considered more impressive, they have done nothing to get this tag.
United States: 26-28-28 82 China: 45-14-20 79 Russia: 13-14-18 45 Britain: 16-10-11 37 Australia:11-12-13 36 France: 4-12-14 30 Germany: 11-8-9 28 South Korea: 8-10-6 24 Japan: 8-6-9 23 Italy: 6-7-7 20 Ukraine: 5-5-8 18 Netherlands: 4-5-4 13 Canada: 2-6-5 13 Belarus: 2-3-8 13 Cuba: 1-6-6 13 Spain: 3-5-2 10 New Zealand: 3-1-5 9 Romania: 4-1-3 8 Poland: 3-4-1 8 Kenya: 2-4-2 8 Kazakhstan: 1-3-4 8 Jamaica: 4-3-0 7 Denmark: 2-1-3 6 North Korea: 2-1-3 6 Brazil: 1-0-5 6 Czech Republic: 2-3-0 5 Switzerland: 2-0-3 5 Azerbaijan: 1-2-2 5 Norway 1-2-2 5 Slovenia 1-2-2 5 Bulgaria: 1-1-3 5 Indonesia: 1-1-3 5 Hungary: 0-4-1 5 Uzbekistan: 0-2-3 5 Armenia: 0-0-5 5 Slovakia 3-1-0 4 Georgia: 2-0-2 4 Zimbabwe: 1-3-0 4 Turkey: 1-2-1 4 Ethiopia: 2-1-0 3 Finland: 1-1-1 3 Sweden: 0-3-0 3 Austria: 0-1-2 3 Greece: 0-1-2 3 Lithuania: 0-1-2 3 Taiwan: 0-0-3 3 Estonia: 1-1-0 2 Mongolia 1-1-0 2 Thailand: 1-1-0 2 Argentina: 1-0-1 2 India 1-0-1 2 Mexico: 1-0-1 2 Algeria: 0-1-1 2 Colombia 0-1-1 2 Croatia: 0-1-1 2 Kyrgyzstan: 0-1-1 2 Serbia: 0-1-1 2 Bahrain: 1-0-0 1 Cameroon: 1-0-0 1 Panama: 1-0-0 1 Tunisia: 1-0-0 1 Chile: 0-1-0 1 Dominican Republic: 0-1-0 1 Ecuador 0-1-0 1 Malaysia: 0-1-0 1 Portugal: 0-1-0 1 Singapore: 0-1-0 1 South Africa: 0-1-0 1 Trinidad & Tobago 0-1-0 1 Vietnam 0-1-0 1 Afghanistan: 0-0-1 1 Egypt: 0-0-1 1 Iran: 0-0-1 1 Israel: 0-0-1 1 Latvia: 0-0-1 1 Morocco: 0-0-1 1 Tajikistan: 0-0-1 1 Togo: 0-0-1 1 Venezuela: 0-0-1 1
Gotta feel a little sorry for France, 30 medals and only 4 golds ouch! Cuba will sweep up the mens 110M Hurdles and much of the boxing.
What if they had made the last three WC finals, in addition to the two they made? Actually, my example was 20 silvers compared to one gold, so the closest example would be for the Netherlands to have made every single final since the WC started. Would you still consider England's single win more impressive?