The Lucas Thread: Best DM in the Premier League

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Cody667, Nov 27, 2011.

  1. Twenty26Six

    Twenty26Six Feeling Sheepish...

    Jan 2, 2004
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jesus, Grin. The bandwagon sure is getting crowded, isn't it?

    This Brasilian kid. He's crap. He's too slow, too weak, and too scared. He'll never make it.

    :D
     
  2. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Hey, I never really disliked him. He was just a little crude in his tackles and loose with his passing. But I knew he'd be great some day..;)
     
  3. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    twa tter rumour is that he's done his cruciate and is out for six months :mad: Still a rumour, though.

    If it comes to the worst, step up young Jay Spearing. And thank fcuk he turned down the chance of going away on loan.
     
  4. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hoping its only 6 weeks, but i think Spearing can step in and do a job. Probably requires a 3 man central midfield more often than not, but wee Jay has been pretty damn good every time he has stepped on the field in 2011.

    Gerrard is coming back isn't he?
     
  5. B.A.

    B.A. Member+

    Sep 12, 2007
    IL
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn you, Cody!
     
  6. liverbird

    liverbird BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 29, 2000
    Mars
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Recall Shelvey and get SG ready. Lucas can take whatever time he needs and come back strong
     
  7. B.A.

    B.A. Member+

    Sep 12, 2007
    IL
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am not counting on Gerrard returning any time soon.

    And if he does return, staying healthy for more than a week or two.

    I am trying to stay positive, but the guy seems cursed.

    Play Spearing alongside Adam, in place of Lucas, and put Henderson in front of them.
     
  8. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No SG will leave us short on the bench if we go 3 in the middle.

    I assume we can recall Shelvey, but if not who's next in line? Coady? Is close to being ready?
     
  9. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    djphal on RAWK who always gets the lineups first, is saying its 6-9 months.

    That sucks, but we'll carry on.
     
  10. newterp

    newterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah just saw that. This blows!
     
  11. ryered

    ryered Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    Hill Country
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Yup, doesn't sound good but we'll manage. I only hope he can rehab and be back to full fitness eventually. Brutally ironic - he was absolutely on fire...
     
  12. B.A.

    B.A. Member+

    Sep 12, 2007
    IL
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If that is a potential problem - play a 4-4-2 (or a 4-1-3-2). Replace Lucas w/ Spearing in either formation for his non-stop hustle and defense, as Henderson alongside Adam worries me on the defensive front.

    The recent form of Maxi and Bellamy gives the team options on the wings or up front alongside Suarez.

    They can also dust off Aurelio and give him some minutes here and there.

    I think they have plenty of options if Kenny is willing to tinker.
     
  13. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    The last 3 games have shown that we are better with 3 in the middle. I agree Henderson along side Adam won't work. I'm not sure about Spearing and Adam as a 2. Think they need Henderson inside as well.
     
  14. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.blackpoolfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10432~2533307,00.html

    SHELVEY RETURNS TO LIVERPOOL
    Posted on: Wed 30 Nov 2011

    THE Seasiders were dealt an unfortunate blow ahead of the busy December programme with the news that Liverpool have recalled in-form midfielder Jonjo Shelvey from his loan spell with the club.

    The 19-year-old had settled well into life at Bloomfield Road netting six goals in nine appearances and talks were at an advanced stage between the two clubs to extend the player's loan beyond the end of December. However, a knee injury to Liverpool's Brazilian midfielder Lucas has meant that the Reds have activated the recall clause and Shelvey returns to Anfield with immediate effect.
     
  15. drobny23

    drobny23 Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Frankly, Lucas is indispensable. This is the worst injury we could have. Worse than had it been Suaraz.
     
  16. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is over stating it a bit.
     
  17. ryered

    ryered Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    Hill Country
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Honestly, I'm not sure it is overstating it. The guy has been developing into far more than just a good holding midfielder. He's really made the team tick recently, and has taken an incredible amount of pressure off our back four and Reina.

    We will have to tinker and adjust to work around his absence. We don't currently have a player who can fully replace him man-for-man IMO.
     
  18. idreamofpikas

    idreamofpikas Member+

    May 22, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Lucas has been in brilliant form the last few seasons and hopefully he'll return as good as ever but we should still be able to cope without him till the end of the season.

    We've got 6 fixtures till the transfer market so if none of the current players can step up we will have options.

    Right now the obvious choice is to play Spearing in Lucas place while waiting for Gerrard to return. Another option is go with a 3 man back line giving Agger more freedom.

    Lucas has been everpresent the last few years, and while that is testament to how consistent he has become it also means that we don't really know how well we'll do without him. Apart from Reina, no one is really irreplaceable in our squad, we coped without Gerrard and Agger we'll have to do the same without Lucas.
     
  19. Illinired

    Illinired Member

    Mar 9, 2009
    Illinois
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmmmm...Cody667 is definitely to blame!!! [​IMG]
     
  20. newterp

    newterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We are going to have to stay with a 3 man midfield fOr the majority of games from here on.

    Spearing can be the harasser but lucas has upped his passing ability a ton this season and I can't see spearing replacing that. However that where a Jordan Adam mix will work. And in the city and Chelski games Henderson was putting in strong defensive work.

    I think we will be fine - but it sucks in any way we look at it.
     
  21. liverbird

    liverbird BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 29, 2000
    Mars
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Jonjo can step up his game and I am sure SG will return to full effectiveness soon. I love Lucas and he has been a Monster recently but we will survive over the next 5 games against middling opposition
     
  22. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly. The drop from Spearing to Shelvey is greater than the drop from Lucas to Spearing. Hurts our depth, but we should be able to adjust our style to over come at least over the short term.

    Problem is its not 5 games but the rest of the season and these injuries usually take 12 to 18 months until he'll be back to top form.

    Do we have enough to cover that period of time?
     
  23. revelationx

    revelationx Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    London
    Lucas is a key player, but the worst injury would be to Reina.

    Get well soon, Lucas.
     
  24. ryered

    ryered Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    Hill Country
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Just a suggestion, please let's not start a Reina thread any time soon...
     
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  25. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This is a huge loss, no doubt about it, tactically and from a personnel point of view. In some games Lucas does the job of two players and has become the metronome of the side in a sense, very reminiscent of the influence Schweinsteiger has at Bayern. Hope the drop off isn't as notable as it is there.
     

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