The J.League Refereeing Thread

Discussion in 'Japanese Club Football' started by Shizuoka, Aug 30, 2009.

  1. roxbury

    roxbury Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I saw the highlight. Agreed.
    For pk position: The defender pulled Takahara since they both jump to air ball.
     
  2. dokool

    dokool Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 11, 2006
    Tokyo, Japan
    Club:
    FC Tokyo
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbhD0GOk4xk"]YouTube - ‪???????? - Highschool Kendo Ippons‬‏[/ame]


    Maybe it's a bit more obvious in person but Japan has officials who can accurately judge this and still can't call a damned offside correctly?
     
  3. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    What referee was doing in the last minutes of Grampus-Avispa game was simply... unbelieveable... Even by Japanese standards...
     
  4. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Yep, he had the guts to call every foul. Props to him.
     
  5. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
  6. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    That's his call dude. The fouls were legit. He gave some yellow cards. You wouldn't but there's no truth out there, everybody has a different opinion and is entitled to it.
    And it's not like yellow cards had an influence on the scoreboard and more globally on the match.
     
  7. Hoolinmazedog

    Hoolinmazedog Member

    Dec 4, 2010
    Fukuoka
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Not quite how it seemed in the ground. He wa calling all the fouls, but only for one team.

    Nagoya deserved the win for sure, but some of the calls they were being given seemed fairly unreal. It wasn't just at the end of the game either, the handball in the box was seen by everyone else in the stadium.

    Most of the players didn't shake hands with the referee at the end, and Nakamachi was held away from him at the final whistle. Someone shouted to Rokutan to start making some saves after the game and he post it a bit and had to be pulled away from the crowd.

    Not a very happy atmosphere. Although in saying that I was thinking in the game I'm happier to be supporting Avispa than Nagoya. There isn't much fantasy in the Nagoya team.
     
  8. watanabe2k

    watanabe2k Member

    Sep 22, 2000
    Illinois, but Japan
    Club:
    Jubilo Iwata
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    These ippons are pretty easy to judge (says the Kendo 2-dan who doesn't have to do much judging ever).

    In Kendo the calls do get a bit questionable though when you get to the international tournaments and get refs from outside of Japan.

    But its not just Japanese who can't call offside properly, I see these mistakes all the time in leagues around the world. I think the viewing angles needed to make a proper offsides call are much harder than the angle for calling an ippon in kendo (since the refs can move around the court in Kendo).
     
  9. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
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    This = no hand in J League...
     
  10. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Who's everyone's favorite and least favorite referee?
     
  11. SamuraiBlue2002

    SamuraiBlue2002 Member+

    Dec 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan


    Worst pk decision this season?
     
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  12. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    best dive of the season hands down...


    Takanori Maeno will remember



    good thing about it is that Vortis still won
     
  13. mv_nelson

    mv_nelson Member

    Jun 22, 2008
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    That's amazing. I actually feel sorry for the ref, he must have been on just the right angle that it looked like there was contact.

    For what it's worth, Wilson's leap over Hyodo's leg a week ago was an epic dive also, London Olympics worthy.
     
  14. magic journey

    magic journey Member+

    Feb 20, 2010
    Noone it seems mentioned.
    S-Pulse-Urawa game's refereeing were poor poor.


    There were few or more questionable whistle,especialy against S-Pulse. a home team.

    One of the most amazing one at minute 86. Urawa defender grap/hug SPulse player from behind. It was %100 PK. But refeere said no. It was clear view spot for him and for his assistands.

    SPulse coach get upset at the line, but nothing change.
     
  15. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    So here's Yamaguchis goal

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    And called off Higashi's

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    Both excellent. About the hand we'll never know probably.
     
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  16. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Yamaguchi is not in an offside position really good call and a difficult one
     
  17. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
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    But if some referee calls off goals like that...



    ...then it can't be helped. It looks like Mr Ogiya's team should take a few weeks off from J league pitches and maybe change their views on off-side paragraphs and it's interpretations.
     
  18. CND_MARINO

    CND_MARINO Member

    Oct 30, 2010
    Ontario
    Club:
    Yokohama F Marinos
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    So Saito was totally ripped off in the Nabisco Cup what a shocking display of refereeing going both ways.
     
  19. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    Omiya robbed...

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    Also red cards for Jeci and Simplicio were... strange.
     
  20. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    More than strange...especially the red card of Jeci...he simply took the ball...may the federation don't suspended him for the next game?
     
  21. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    getting a tight offside call wrong doesn't mean robbing anyone.
     

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