The Hattrick Thread: Part Seven

How often do you tend to find players on the TL who have excellent or better experience and anything other than awful leadership skills? Since I have pretty much no chance of getting any players to anything better than weak experience, I'm trying to buy a player who I can make into a coach, but to say the pickings are slim is an understatement. I have simply never found a player with excellent experience and better than inadequate leadership skills.

Are they really so rare or am I just not looking hard enough? And what would such a player typically sell for?

Re: The Hattrick Thread: Part Six

Several players seemed a little dazed by the warm weather, and were repeatedly tricked by the clever and agile Bernard Russell.

Weather event.

OK, I'm "winning" this thread. Really.

Wow, I need to post more often in these threads. I only had 6 posts last time.

Does anyone else enjoy trying to buy out of form players and hoping for the best?

is it wrong if i enjoy beign demoted?

You can do much better than that.

What you do is look for whether their form is on its way up or down, and buy out of form players who are about to rise in form. Form does follow patterns, and you can check this by using the supporter stats to compare the player's best matches.

So you can hope for the best, but with a stacked deck.

Ooh that's a good idea.

You're aiming too high. Look for passable experience, you gotta keep him for 16 weeks anyway before turning him into a coach. Many players with decent leadership get turned into coaches at solid exp, and the ones who go beyond this are simply too good (i.e., too expensive) for the likes of us.

romagol10 54
kuhnscoot 52
Kermmy803 31
MLS SupaStr3 25
fcsg 21
kopiteinkc 18
Stogey23 15
phillips10 15
mtkillamanjohno 13
Deuteriumoxide 13
BrianJames 13
NoodlesMacintosh 11
PirateJohn 10
Helghallen 10
mcfarljd 9
Craig P 9
Danks81 8
CrewDust 8
CharlesS 7
AAGunner3 7
John_Harkes_6 7
GROVESHSCOACH 6
Ikari 6
Onionsack 5
Kevin in Louisiana 4
Qamle 4
ur_land 3
elciclon 3
zpjohnstone 2
Brunsen 2
Saltenya94 2
Narmec 2
bkn0528 2
junjunforever 1
Andy P 1
Dan Loney 1
distrunner450 1

I'm #1! USA! USA! USA! USA!

Screw you guys, I'mma goin' home.

only 8 posts for me, I must improve upon that.

some people will say it's wrong to demote just because you don't like your series, but I personally don't have a huge problem with it. A guy in my series is contimplating a fall, because he's a good team, but with the talent at the top of the league, it's hard for him to even have a chance to promote for at least another 3 seasons. He wants to drop and come back up somewhere new.

Re: The Hattrick Thread: Part Six

didnt know you cared

this is the 2nd time its happened with this player in the sun/heat. A couple seasons back he also performed 2* higher in 1 match. Too bad I couldnt save it for wednesday.

If you're buying for the long term, this is smart. You can get a better player for cheaper, with only the short term poor form to worry about.

I'm disqualfying Kuhnscoot for Kuhnscooting and Romagol for b!tching about kuhnscooting which is in fact, kuhnscooting..

Kermmy is the winner, that is all.

Well then, it's a good thing you have no pull here.

OK, decision time for me and I need some advice on this.

I got 106 hatstats last week at home on a normal, and 99 hatstats this week on a PiC. With the team spirit up to calm, I expect a wretched (v high) midfield on the road and poor (v low) at home, maybe even poor (v low) both places.

While my team has a good training program and we're improving rapidly, my next major acquisition *must* be to change my coach from inadequate to solid, so I will not be buying anybody in the near future. Which basically means I'm playing with what I've got for the next five weeks.

Our league has one team (The Roadies) that gets around a 145 hatstats but manages to have passable defense and attack with only a wretched (high) to poor (v low) midfield, one other team that's run by somebody good (La Academia), and a bunch of teams that will lose to the three of us. I had the misfortune to lose to a good team right before they got new ownership, and I lost at home to La Academia in a match that I could have won (and I'd win a rematch now I think). So, the current table is:

Roadies 13
Academia 13
New Team 10 (won't take many points the rest of the way though)
Red Sox United 9

Roadies just drew at an Academia team that they out-hatstatted by 40, but they needed two set piece goals to manage a 2-2 draw. Academia and Roadies both appear to never MOTS or PiC and have predictable tactics.

The series is VI.75 if you want to take a look at it.

My remaining schedule:
@Roadies
PiC
PiC
Roadies
PiC (Roadies host Academia)
PiC
@Academia
normal or PiC - if TS is low I have to normal
PiC

Because of the extra three points I dropped, I realistically have to take at least four points from Roadies and three from Academia. If the Roadies beat Academia at home, then I need six points from Roadies or else I come in second anyway. I know - the lesson is, don't drop the three extra points. So given this, which of these is best?

1) Normal this week, PiC twice, which means I can beat Roadies on normal a second time, PiC twice again and then be able to beat Academia on normal, which will let me PiC twice more and if I have a qualifier, I'd have a real shot.

2) Decide that I'm not going to win on normal this week which means I have no choice but to MOTS, PiC twice, MOTS again because the TS will still not be t hat high, PiC twice, MOTS Academia, normal then PiC, and hope that somehow I make a qualifier with crappy TS and draw either a weak opponent or one interested in going down.

3) Give up, PiC Roadies twice and MOTS Academia in a bid for second. Maybe Roadies autopromotes and I get a weaker opponent, but either way next season I'm going to outmidfield them badly enough that I should be able to go up.

Oh, sorry, one last option

4) Give up one training slot both this week and next (I train scoring). Play a 3-5-2 in my friendly this week to get experience then a 3-5-2 next week against Roadies. This will let me win midfield on a normal, won't it? But it costs me being able to train a 19yo solid for two weeks, so it's not an insignificant cost. Actually, I probably would choose not to train a 17yo solid that just popped instead, because I really need to get the solid coach and get a pop, but then I'm not training a 17yo...

Which of these plans would you go with?

Whatever you do don't go with #4. To be honest if you do win the division and get into Div V you are going to get your ass handed to you. One more season in Div VI won't hurt. That being said the most important thing for you right now is to maximize your training and to give up that one spot as a forward trainer is a bad move to me.

Although giving up two training slots would be worth it if I get three back for a qualifier.

But that means I have to pretty sure that I'm going to win the series to be willing to give up the two slots, I agree. I guess the question is whether the combination of the additional revenue from the extra people in the fan club and the extra temporary fan interest plus the chance of getting three slots for a qualifier is worth the two I give up. Probably not though - that's why I included it as #4.

Arena Viewer is now awesome.

Wow i need to pick up the slack this time around, only 9 in the last thread... doesnt help i was internet-less for the most part.

Team is 5 points clear of the auto-demotion line and might be able to bump this up to 8 with a win next week at home. Had a couple pops last week and should have 3 more within the next two weeks, so i'll be sporting 4 formids, 1 outstanding, and 1 excellent. Tempted to sell off two of them for a nice 2 million then buy a couple trainees and still have another million to boost up the D (my goalie is only solid). As long as I make it through the next match with a W then i'll hang on to them all though, i'm going against the least offensive team, and my midfield has been consistently better.

i like it. but it's now insidiously encouraging me to recklessly expand my stadium. must... resist... expansion...

my team is coming along nicely. in third and just knocked #1 down to #2. if i hadn't made a lineup mistake a couple weeks ago placing an extra IM as an extra forward i'd be in first with a good shot at promotion. still have a chance but it's a longshot.