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Discussion in 'Women's College' started by WestWind, Dec 2, 2011.
Darn those affirmative actions zealots!
BTW, how many female coaches are having their time wasted interviewing for jobs coaching men's teams? Just wondering...
How many are actually applying for men's jobs? You can't make claims until something actually happens. It's kind of like making claims using posts that don't actually say what you claim.
Somethings working against quality women coaches is that the ones that would make good coaches dont coach. Most female college players are pretty good academically and have options for better careers than the like as a coach.
The life of a coach is unstable if the husband is the main bread winner women are not always that willing to relocate especially when kids come around. The pay is just not that good to do so.
Does anyone have stats for how many of the 300+ Div I teams have female head coaches? And maybe stats for some of the conferences?
This is a really good question. I can't find anything in the NCAA stats (which doesn't necessarily mean it isn't there) listing the teams' coaches. The best way I know of to get a list would be to go to the nc-soccer RPI pages and use the team links to get to the teams' websites and from there to the teams' roster pages, which will have the coaches. It's probably about a days' work to get all the head coaches. Maybe there's something much better at the NSCAA website, which I haven't checked.
Having the stats you are asking about would lend a great deal to the discussion. Of course, spending time to get the stats would mean being motivated to have opinions based in actual facts.
The ACC is currently all men with the exception of Alison Foley at Boston College, however there have been several female coaches in the past at various schools.
HAH! The WCC has two women head coaches; Jennifer Rockwood at BYU and Amy Edwards at Gonzaga.
Big Ten has 5 (down from 6 this past fall with Northwestern's coaching change).
Big 12 has 3 female coaches out of 9...
18 of the 64 teams (28%) in the NCAA Tournament this year had female coaches. I would imagine that is a fairly good representation of the distribution across all 300+ programs but I could be wrong.
MAAC has 2 of 10 women coaches - Loyola and Marist
NEC has 4 of 10 - LIU, SHU, FDU, Monmouth (UMBC still to hire)
America East has 5 of 9 coaches women - BU, Albany, UVM, Stony Brook and Binghamton
Ivy League has 3 of 8 coaches that are women - Princeton, Dartmouth and Cornell
I think within D1 (and probably overall) it's around 35-40%, so a bit higher than that.
35% would probably be a good guess.
When I did my A license (which was in the last 5 years) there were 80 candidates. 75 were male. So 6% were females.
BEFORE anyone starts the "Licensing doesn't mean anything" drivel I just want to state that this is another criteria to look at. This was just one USSF course so I know it is certainly not a representative sample. But if just 6% were females in this one A course it is interesting to see how 35-40% of females hold head college gigs. Just saying...
ooh ooh pick me pick me I know the answer............Is it because it is a women's sport?
Both reached the MAAC Conference Tournament Final. The same is true in the America East where both finalists (BU & Albany) had female coaches. Are these the only two conferences where this happened?
You forgot Saint Francis, so in addition to the 4 MAAC and America East Finalists, both NEC Conference Tournament Finalists had female coaches. The northeast conferences are well represented with successful female head coaches.
Apparently someone has done a study:
Where are all the female coaches?
Seems about the same ratio for Referees too.
I wonder if this would be the same for players without Title IX
another article with numbers from across the border
What I got out of the TD article was that in youth soccer where parents want their daughters to play for the best youth coach because they are paying big $ for it and are not restricted by gender equity rules the percentage of female coaches is 5%.
In college, where the restrictions of gender equity and Title IX do exist, the number of female coaches is 33.1%.
Its clear women are doing just fine in college and jobs. I don't know why its important to say two different genders need to have the same ratios in all things.
I want the best females to have the best referee. As most refs are male - I would expect more to be male, but we see mostly female referess.
To make it a little more convenient, here are the links to both parts of the article and the study mentioned at the beginning of Part 2 of the article:
Where are all the female coaches? Part 1
Where are all the female coaches? Part 2
Winning In NCAA Women’s Soccer: Does The Gender Of The Coach Matter?
At the latter link, clicking on "PDF" will pull up the ten page report.