The European Union News Thread

Discussion in 'International News' started by Nico Limmat, Nov 4, 2009.

  1. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    No they're not. They had a 13% budget deficit before they even joined the Eurozone and long before the economic downturn even. Which as they now admit to, they lied about to the EU. If there was ever a more blatant example of a country getting itself in a financial mess it's Greece.
     
  2. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Expect rep about your mother :D
     
  3. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    Tomorrow's headline on the cover of the Sun: 'I'm European says Brit!'
     
  4. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Hey, we're all Europeans geographically speaking. The rock under our feet says so.
     
  5. Juan Carlos II

    Jan 14, 2004
    Lytham St Annes
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    In my eyes it was plain to see that at some point the weaker EU economies would drag the rest down I even studied the possibilities of it happening in 'A' level human geography in 1988/9, it's just quite worrying that as an 18yr old student I could see it coming when the Euro economy boffins can't. On the physical geography side I can indeed declare that we are definitely part of Europe but far enough away to stick 2 fingers up at you all and you not see us do it. :)
     
  6. Juan Carlos II

    Jan 14, 2004
    Lytham St Annes
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    On the downside we have a load of Euros in our bank that I could have sold at 1.12 a week or so ago but was waiting for DSM to pay us a load more before I traded them..... Damn the Dutch.
     
  7. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    I know that but whenever e.g. the BBC refers to Europe they ain't referring to themselves!
     
  8. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    There's not much the EU can do as the member states independently monitor their own banks and there still is protectionism galore even within the Eurozone. That to me is the irony of the EU debate. When things go wrong people blame the EU's increasing power while in fact it's their lack of power that causes problems.
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I dunno - england is doing quite a good job of dragging itself down
     
  10. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    What are they refering to then?
     
  11. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    Continental Europe.
     
  12. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    DSM aren't doing so great at the moment. They're selling off a lot of their mass volume manufacturing businesses.
     
  13. Juan Carlos II

    Jan 14, 2004
    Lytham St Annes
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland drag us down, England are doing fine.
     
  14. Juan Carlos II

    Jan 14, 2004
    Lytham St Annes
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Including the one we deal with.
     
  15. Juan Carlos II

    Jan 14, 2004
    Lytham St Annes
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Full of strange people that place is.
     
  16. Juan Carlos II

    Jan 14, 2004
    Lytham St Annes
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Είναι όλα τα ελληνικά μου
     
  17. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    That entirely depends on context. When discussing the continent of Europe, of course they do. When discussing matters of the EU, it's inclusive of the UK.
     
  18. Anthony

    Anthony Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Aug 20, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This whole conversation is really funny -- whenever I am asked why I moved to London, I say "For work, as I always wanted to live in Europe for a while".

    To which every true Briton then says "If you wanted to live in Europe, why did you move here?"
     
  19. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    You know what I mean Matt. In Britain, Europe generally is more 'them' than 'us'. I don't think the Brits in general feel they have a lot in common at all with the continentals. Which is a shame as you really really do. I know what I'm talking about, I'm married to one of your lot.

    Besides, as far as I know the last time the EU made it to say the BBC breakfast news it was about the European presidency and they talked about the Dutch prime minister being a candidate and they showed a pic of the Belgian prime minister. Can you blame us continentals for thinking that the Brits don't give a shite. I know this is the media and they're not necessarily representative of the public but still.
     
  20. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    It's hysterically funny the way you people pick and choose when you're British and when you're English.
     
  21. Anthony

    Anthony Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Aug 20, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, after 5 months living here, I can tell you the BBC cares a lot more about the EU than the general public does.

    But the EU (or at least the Greek bailout) is all over the BBC this morning. Word is Gordon Brown is about to save the world again.
     
  22. mattteo

    mattteo Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Shouldn't the UK worry about their problems first??

    Or are they diverting the attention so that British citizens don't start worrying about their coming financial collapse??

    Booming public deficit (and not for 'social' reasons but to bail out private financial institutions)
    No industrial network
    Heavy reliance on foreign investments
    Privatized welfare
    No public properties
    Sky-high average private debt (clearly worse than having high public debt...unless you believe in mainstream macroeconomics)
    Little signs of recovery from the crisis
    London still losing importance as world financial capital
     
  23. mattteo

    mattteo Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    He shouldn't, he didn't make any offensive ethnic remark.
     
  24. mattteo

    mattteo Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I wasn't talking about geography, I was talking about culture.

    But it's OT, I apologize for that comment.
     
  25. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Well we don't. Because by definition, "the continentals" is an amporphous mishmash of enormously diverse places and people.

    The issue is not misconception in the UK, but wishful thinking by some of these "contintentals". You have very little in common with someone from Portugal or Poland, above and beyond the usual facets of daily existence, but because you belong to this arbitrary "Club" you behave as though everyone from Galway to the Bosphorus is one big extended family.

    Not really, because we don't. I'm surprised they managed to narrow it down to any politician from any Benelux country. In fact, they probably only have the two photographs for the entire region - one for a generic Benelux male politician and one for his female counterpart.

    When Rompuy or whatever his name is was made EU High President and I asked some of my new Belgian colleagues about him, they couldn't really tell me anything either. Can you blame any other country's citizens?
     

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