The use is to post the link to the original publicly available source (which you often 'forget', even if it is your own work previously posted on BS; it isn't the first time you ask for the purpose), which also contains some more data and trivia available on the web. If you don't like it, feel free to do so. I often do this if I know it exists. Sometimes the original poster isn't aware; that is the purpose too.
Interesting that Josef Bican who is often regarded as Czech's best player of all time is of Austrian descent and Austria's best player of all time Matthias Sindelar is of Czech descent !
Yea I noticed that thread too, these types of threads that you create are cool . Keep it up. You really know a lot of interesting bits of trivia, I'm impressed.
Josef Bican is also of 'Czech' (using today's nations) descent. Sindelar's parent came from Moravia to Vienna, Bican's from Bohemia.
I wasn't aware it was publicly available as I am a subscriber at ENFA because they have a tremendous load of super rare information on their website (all Football League lineups since 1891 - all four leagues!) and wrongly assumed this was part of their subscribers section. Hence I assumed posting a link wouldn't have worked for non-subscribers. Let me know what you were tryin to insinuate with putting "forget" into quotation marks? To me it reads as if you insinuate that I am trying to pass information as my own when it is someone else's, which would clearly not be the case.
Ferenc Puskas was of German descent. From wikipedia: Puskás was born as Ferenc Purczeld in Budapest and brought up in Kispest, then a village near the city. His father, Ferenc Sr. was a Danube Swabian of German ethnicity, who Magyarized his family surname to Puskás in 1937.
Ibrahimovic not only has achieved this but also has won Serie A with each of these and made top ten of Ballon D'or with each of the big three too.
Some more football records from England, taken from „Rothmans Football Yearbook 1982-83“: The oldest player to appear in the Football League was Neil McBain who played in goal for New Brighton v Hartlepool United, Division 3 (North), 15 March 1947. He was then aged 52 years, 4 months. The oldest player to appear for any of the home countries in a full international was Billy Meredith, who was nearly 46 years of age when he played for Wales v England, 15 March, 1920. The record for most appearances in the Football League during one season by a player over 40 years of age was created by Bob McGrory. In his last season as a player with Stoke City (1934-35) he appeared in all 42 First Division games. Bob was then 43 years of age. The record for most consecutive appearances in the Football League was created by Harold Bell, Tranmere Rovers centre-half. From the opening game of the season 1946-47 Bell did not miss a single game until August 1955 – a run of 401 consecutive Division 3 (North) matches. Including FA Cup, Liverpool Senior Cup and Cheshire Bowl games, Bell enjoyed a run of 459 consecutive first team appearances. John Trollope created a club record by making 770 League appearances for Swindon Town between 1960 and 1980. In the Scottish League the record for most appearances for a single club was created by Bob Ferrier with 626 for Motherwell between 1918 and 1937. Billy Wright (Wolverhampton Wanderers) set up a world record by playing in 70 consecutive internationals for England, from 1951 to 1959. Since substitutes were introduced into League football in 1965, Bristol City is the club that has played throught the longest spell without calling upon one of these players – a run of 52 League games, 4 FA Cup, and 2 League Cup ties from February 1966 to April 1967. The shortest player to appear in the Football League is outside-right Fred Le May, who was only 5ft tall. He played for Thames 1930-31, Watford 1931-32, and Clapton Orient 1932-33. The tallest was Albert Iremonger, Notts County and Lincoln City goalkeeper 1904 – 1927. He was 6ft 5in tall. The longest FA Cup tie was the 4th qualifying round match between Alvechurch and Oxford City in 1971. It needed 11 hours (six games) before Alvechurch won 1-0. The longest single game on record is that between Stockport County and Doncaster Rovers, 30 March, 1956. In an effort to reach a decisive result, this Third Division (North) Cup tie continued for 203 minutes before bad light forced an abandonement. Rochdale suffered 14 consecutive home defeats in Division 3 (North) in 1931-32. This is a Football League record. After beating New Brighton 3-2 on 7 November 1931, they did not get another home point until holding Barrow to a goalless draw in their second home game of season 1932-33. During that same period Rochdale suffered one run of 17 consecutive defeats (home and away) – also a Football League record. In season 1904-05 Manchester United won 14 consecutive Division 2 games. This Football League record was equalled by Bristol City and Preston North End in Division 2 in 1905-06 and 1950-51, respectively. Nottingham Forest were undefeated in a run of 42 First Division games, November 1977 to December 1978. This is a Football League record. The longest run without a single defeat in a single season of Football League games is one of 30 matches by Burnley in Division 1 in 1920-21. In the Scottish League, Celtic created a record by remaining undefeated in a run of 62 games – November 1915 to April 1917. Blackburn Rovers hold the record for the longest run of consecutive FA Cup ties without defeat. From December 1883 to December 1886 they were unbeated in 24 Cup ties and won the Trophy three times during this period. Only two players have scored two goals for each side in a Football League game. Sam Wynne did so in a Division 2 game, 6 October, 1923, scoring twice for Oldham Athletic as well as putting two through his own goal for Manchester United. Chris Nicholl (Aston Villa) scored all goals in a 2-2 draw with Leicester City, Division 1, 20 March 1976. The record number of goals scored by a player making his Football League debut is five – by George Hilsdon for Chelsea v Glossop, Division 2, 1 September, 1906. The record for scoring the fastest goal in a Football League game is claimed by Jim Fryatt. According to referee Mr. R.J.Simon this player scored for Bradford v Tranmere Rovers only 4 seconds after the kick-off, 25 April, 1964. Fastest own goal was in 6 seconds by Pat Kruse (Torquay United) for Cambridge United, 3 January, 1977. The fastest goals scored in the FA Cup Final at Wembley were obtained in the first minute. In 1928 John Roscamp put Blackburn Rovers ahead when he charged both the Huddersfield goalkeeper and the ball into the net, and in 1955 Jackie Milburn headed Newcastle United into a first-minute lead over Manchester City. John McIntyre scored four goals in 5 minutes for Blackburn Rovers v Everton, Division 1, 16 September, 1922. W.G.Richardson also scored four goals in 5 minutes for West Bromwich Albion, Division 1, 7 November 1931, but this was even more remarkable because the feat was achieved in an away game – against West Ham United. The record number of penalties missed by one side in a Football League Division 1 game is three: by Fletcher (2) and Thornley for Manchester City against Newcastle United, 27 February 1912. The most penalties scored by a player in a First Division game is three – Billy Walker for Aston Villa v Bradford City, 12 November 1921; Charlie Mitten for Manchester United v Aston Villa, 8 March 1950, and Ken Barnes for Manchester City v Everton, 7 December, 1957. The record number of players from the same club in an England team is seven: Frank Moss, George Male, Eddie Hapgood, Wilf Copping, Raymond Bowden, Ted Drake and Clifford Bastin, all of Arsenal, played against Italy at Highbury, 14 November 1934. The biggest Championship-winning margin for any Division of the Football League is 15 points (2 points for a win); by Middlesbrough in Division 2 in 1973-74. The smallest number of players called-upon by a club to complete a season of Football League is 14. Liverpool did so when winning the Championship in 1965-66, and Aston Villa equalled it in 1980-81 when they too won the Championship. In the Scottish League, Dundee called upon only 15 players throughout season 1961-62, when they won the Championship. The goalscoring record for a goalkeeper in a single season of Football League games is five (all from penalties) in 1923-24 by Arnold Birch of Chesterfield in Division 3 (North). In 1973-74 Leeds United created a Football League record for the longest run without defeat from the start of the season – 29 First Division games before losing 2-3 at Stoke. The youngest player to appear in the Football League is Albert Geldard who was aged 15 years 156 days when making his debut for Bradford against Millwall, Division 2, 16 September, 1929. The youngest player in an FA Cup Final is Paul Allen, who was aged 17 years, 256 days, when West Ham United beat Arsenal 1-0, 10 May 1980. The highest number of players ordered off in the Football League in a single day is eight, 5 October, 1974. This figure also represents the record for the FA Cup competition. Eight players were ordered off in 1st round matches, 9 January, 1915. The first five Football League games were played on 8 September, 1888. King George V was the first reigning monarch to attend a Cup Final. He saw Burnley beat Liverpool at the Crystal Palace in 1914. Extra time was first played in the Cup Final in 1877. Wanderers and Oxford University were drawing 1-1 at full time; Wanderers won 2-1. Terry Venables was the first player to win international honours for England at five levels – Schoolboy, Youth, Amateur, Under-23 and Full International. He gained his first full cap in October 1964. The first-ever game by floodlight was between two Sheffield Association teams at Bramall Lane, 14 October, 1878. The first FA Cup tie under floodlights was a replay between Kidderminster Harriers and Brierley Hill Alliance, 14 September, 1955. Floodlights were first switched on during an international match in England in November 1955 at Wembley – England v Spain. The first Football League game under floodlights was Portsmouth v Newcastle United at Fratton Park, 22 February, 1956. The first full international played entirely under floodlights in Britain took place at Wembley in 1963 when England beat Northern Ireland 8-3. The first hat-trick in an FA Cup final was scored by William Townley for Blackburn Rovers v Sheffield Wednesday in 1890. Shinguards were first introduced and registered by Sam Widdowson of Nottingham Forest in 1874. The cross-bar first replaced the tape in 1875, and the whistle was used by the referee for the first time in 1878. Goalnets were invented and patented by J.A.Brodie of Liverpool in 1890 and were first seen in the FA Cup final in 1892. First substitute in a Football League game was Keith Peacock of Charlton Athletic, at Bolton, 21 August 1965. The first instance of a substitute in a Home International Championship game was at Wrexham in 1889 when Pugh of Rhostyllen took over from the injured S.G.Gilliam in the Welsh goal against Scotland. England’s first substitute in a full international was Jimmy Mullen (Wolverhampton Wanderers) who took over from the injured Jackie Milburn after 10 minutes of the game against Belgium in Brussels, 18 May, 1950. The first substitute to score in a Football League game was Bobby Knox (Barrow) v Wrexham, Division 4, 21 August 1965. The first four, five, six and seven figure transfer fees between British clubs were as follows: 1,000 GBP – Alf Common, Sunderland to Middlesbrough, 1905. 10,890 GBP – David Jack, Bolton Wanderers to Arsenal, 1928. 110,000 GBP – Alan Ball, Blackpool to Everton, 1966. 1,000,000 GBP – Trevor Francis, Birmingham City to Nottingham Forest, 1979. The first match broadcast in England was the First Division game between Arsenal and Sheffield United at Highbury, 22 January, 1927. The first Football League game to be televised was Blackpool v Bolton Wanderers, 10 September, 1960. The first FA Cup tie to be televised – other than the final – was Charlton Athletic v Blackburn Rovers, 5th round, 8 February, 1947. Billy Smith was the first player to score direct from a corner kick in a Football League game – Huddersfield Town v Arsenal, 24 October, 1924. The first player to score from a penalty in a Football League match was Heath of Wolverhampton Wanderers v Accrington, Division 1, 14 September, 1891.
The 2002 WC title was Brazil's first WC title without Mario Zagello. He won the title in 1958 and 1962 as a player. In 1970, he was the manager. In 1994, he was the assistant coach. Julio Iglesias was a keeper with Real Madrid. Pavarotti was also a keeper with Modena. When he was promoted to the first team, they played him on the wing. He never made it because they played him out of position.
Palbo Wanchope of Costa Rica was a good HS basketball in Los Angeles. He earned a scholarship to the USC program before he was discovered as a soccer player. The USC program isn't one of the best programs, but it is still in Division One. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/e...s-wierd-route-to-renaissance-man-1287166.html Ato Bolden, a four-time Olympic medal winner representing T&T, was on the Santa Clara(in Northern California, near San Jose) all-county soccer team.
This looks like a handy little site. I mean appears basic and limited to England of course but the data it has seems to be very much complete. Any idea who's behind it or how long it's been around?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/English-National-Football-Archive-Yearbook/dp/1905891628 Tony Brown http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tony-Brown/e/B0034PH1N2/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_pop_1/280-8423239-2336311 Michael Joyce David Longbottom
Gigi Meroni was an emerging Italian soccer stars playing for Torino in the mid-1960's. He was known as the "George Best" of Italy. Liked Best, he wore his hair long and was very stylist.He was a big idol for his club team. He died at the age of 24 after being hit by two cars while crossing the street. Some said that his death denied Torino's chance of winning their first title since the Superga Tragedy of 1949. The driver of the car was a 19-year-old Torino F.C. supporter named Attilio Romero who idolised him. Some reported that he had a photo of Meroni in his car. In 2000, he became the President of Torino FC. Yes, Torino hired the person who killed one of their greatest idols as their president.
I actually read about it. I forgot to mention it. I wondered if he was as good as people wrote about him. Sometimes, death made a person legendary. He was approximately the same age as Rivera, Mazzola, Riva, Facchetti and Zoff. So he could have won the EC 1968.
Meroni played one game for Italy at the 1966 World Cup (0-1 vs. Soviet Union). He was dropped the next game vs. North Korea.
Pelé almost moved to Vasco da Gama in 1957. (Pelé played three matches with combined Vasco-Santos team in June 1957) Vasco also tried to sign with Eusebio in 1970, but Benfica demanded a high value.
Sir Alex Ferguson is very into the assassination of JKF. He owned a copy of the Warren Report signed by President Ford. He kept JKF's autopsy report by his bed side. While serving as a wireless operator for the Royal Air Force in WW Two, Stan Mortensen endured a plane crash that killed everyone else on board. He sustained a number of injuries. The injuries allowed Mortensen to return to England in 1941, in which year he began playing for Blackpool. The British Footballers' Battalion was founded in 1914. Reason? During the War, footballers were allowed to stay behind and play football in order to keep the public's spirits up. This did not sit well with the general public. So they founded he 17th Service Battalion of the Middlesex Regiment as the footballers' battalion in order for footballers to volunteer. The battalion also included club officials and referees, but some footballers joined other battalions. Jordi Cruyff was named after the patron saint of Catalonia. Under Franco, all Catalan names were not allowed in Spain. Johan Cruyff could not register his son's name in Spain so he registered his name in Holland. Jordi Cruyff's name was often associated with the failure of a second generation player. Among the sons of the absolute all-time greats(top 10 ever), he actually achieved the most. Edson(Pele's son), Diego Maradona and Stefan Beckenbauer all played football, but only Cruyff reached the top level, playing over 200 games in La Liga. Pele has a 16 years old son. He might have a chance. And there is Enzo Zidane. Nizar Trabelsi was convicted as a terrorist and sentenced to 10 years' imprisonment for his association with Al-Qaida. He was once on the books of Fortuna Dusseldorf. Tracey Neville is England's record cap holder for netball, a big sport in the British Commonwealth. Her brothers were Gary and Phil. Hugo Sanchez was known for his somersault goal celebration, one of the first players to do it. His celebration was actually in honor of his sister Herlinda who was participated in the Montreal Olympics as a gymnast.
Maradona refused to sit on the same table with Thomas Muller in a press conference after a friendly match in march 2010. To him, Muller was a nobody. He thought he was a ballboy. Three months later, Maradona found out about Muller when Muller scored against Argentina in the WC quaterfinal.
Samuel Eto'o once played for Real Madrid. Cristiano Ronaldo threw a chair at his teacher when he was 14 for mocking his financial status. Real Madrid or Brazil have never lost a match when Kaka has scored. Real Madrid holds the top three world record transfer fees. All the facts ^ were about Real Madrid :|
-- Wolverhampton Wanders won two "league" titles in the US. The United Soccer Association was a professional league in the US before the birth of the NASL. They only played one season. In 1967, they quickly launched their league before their rival league NPSL could start their own league, but they did not have any own team. So they imported the entire team from Europe. The Wolverhampton Wanders became the LA Wolves. They were their first and only champion. They beat Washington Whips(Aberdeen) in the final. Gordon Banks played for Cleveland Stokers(Stoke City). Roberto Boninsegna played for Chicargo Mustang(Cagiliari). The following season, they merged with NPSL to form the NASL. The foreign teams returned to play in the 1969 NASL season. Wolverhampton Wanders, known as Kansas City Spurs, won the championship again. The other teams in 1969: Atlanta Chiefs were represented by Aston Villa. Baltimore Bays were represented by West Ham. Dallas Tornado were represented by Dundee United. Kansas City Spurs were represented by Wolveshampton Wanders. St. Louis Stars were represented by Kilmarnock FC. -- This guy should be the first black player representing England. Anderson and Cunningham came later. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22648085 -- In 1914, Carlos Alberto became the first mixed race player for Fluminense. To avoid the hostile catcalls of the baying crowd, he whitened his face with rice powder. When the make-up started to fade, the opposing fans began to chant “Rice powder! Rice powder!’ which has stuck as one of the club’s nicknames. The practice of throwing rice powder when Fluminense players take to the pitch is a famous tradition that has continued ever since. Such a racially charged ritual may seem hard to imagine in other countries, but Brazil’s history and culture is it’s own.
Players who played for more than two London clubs: Willie Gallas: Arsenal, Hotspurs and Chelsea. Ian Wright: Crystal Palace, Wedt Ham and Arsenal. Danny Murphy: Charlton, Spurs and fulham. John Hartson: Arsenal, West Ham and Wimbledon Carlton Cole: Chelsea, West Ham, Charlton. Scott Parker: Chelsea, Spurs, West Ham, Charlton. Neil Sullivan: Palace, Wimbledon, Spurs and Chelsea Paul Konchesky: Charlton, West Ham, Fulham and Spurs. Bobby Zamora : Tottenham, West Ham, Fulham and QPR. Players who played for more than two Madrid clubs Morata: Getafe, Atletico Madrod and Real Madrid, but on the youth team. Luis Aragones: Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid, Getafe. Hugo Sanchez: Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid and Rayo Vallcano. Players who had played for AC Milan, Inter Milan and Juventus. Giuseppe Meazza, Roberto Baggio, Christian Vieri, Edgar Davids, Patrick Vieira, Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Pirlo. Players who had played for Atletico Madrid, Barcelona and Real Madrid. Bernard Schuster Player who had played for PSV, Ajax and Feyenoord. Ronald Koeman Players who had played for Porto , Benfica and Sporting Futre Peter Beardsley is one of only four players who had played for both Liverpool and Manchester United. He also played for Liverpool's rival, Everton. Ronaldo(Brazil) is probably the only player who had played for both side of a major rivalry twice. He played for both AC Milan and Inter Milan, and Barcelona and Real Madrid.
I'm assuming this is Premier League era only, as I can top that. Clive Allen played for 6 London clubs (QPR, Crystal Palace, Spurs, Chelsea, West Ham and Millwall) and also had a spell at Arsenal, but didn't play a game.
Along similar lines to Excape Goat's post, Shay Given is the sixth player to play for all three North East clubs (Newcastle, Sunderland and Middlesbrough) and the first to do so since the 70s. The others were Joseph Blackett, William Agnew, Tommy Urwin, Stan Anderson and Alan Foggon (and yes, I do realise most people will ask "Who?").