I understand your revulsion at the "get off my lawn" nature of that post, but your argument in the latter part is a bit of a non sequitur. We're talking about post-secondary education, here, where the US is still at the top of the heap (for now) in delivering quality services. You're talking about math and science illiteracy, which is a problem long before anyone even talks about going to college. The systems are completely separate, and we're not going to be able to raise our math and science levels by flushing more cash down the toilet trying to get kids who really shouldn't be there AND are not of means to go to college subsidized by the rest of us. Kids who are math/science illiterate cannot be helped by forgiving college loans. The damage was done in our primary and secondary government schools.