The Crew Forum Politics Thread (Read Before You Post)

12. You all suck

In before the lock.

The adds are already annoying

You might be on to something here...if the Mods can configure the thread to have a pop up political ad every time you go into it, maybe it will be so annoying people will stay away? Okay, maybe not!

Will it have to be one of those gross-out anti-abortion ads that shows aborted fetuses?

I guess I will dip my toe into the political waters a little bit.

Had a 45 minute conversation with a group of friends about whether John Kasich will run for president not this time obviously but in the following election. AND if he did would that be a good or bad thing.

You should ask Sheldon Adelson if Kasich is going to run. He probably has a better idea about it than Kasich does.

I hope so.

...i am also hungry

Great Idea.

Ohio would back him but the other 49 would not. It would be the most epic political fail. ever. worse than hitler. (Yes i said hitler, its politics.)

You don't think a state like Wisconsin wouldn't back him?

Nope.

Jesse Ventura would return to power and destroy all who oppose. The badgers would do the right thing!

Ventura was a Minnesotan. Only a friendly neighbor who thinks that all his other neighbors are out to get him

I've gone to the statehouse with relatives so they could see his gubernatorial portrait. Holding a stogie in the picture (but no feather boa...).

Oh hell thats right.

But Ventura is so Massive he could still make Wisconsin vote against a Kasich for Pres.

I'll bite.

Kasich rode the Tea Party wave into office (by a narrow margin I might add), but aside from irritating liberals I don't see him having distinguished himself.

The funny thing is, he got elected based on a lot of conservative bluster about breaking the backs of teachers' unions, balancing the budget (almost exclusively at the expense of liberal social programs) and other such standard Republican platform planks. And yet (for example), after having been firmly rebuffed over his union-busting law by voters, he has now actually begun to compromise a bit and work with teachers unions in Cleveland. I heartily applaud the willingness to compromise - it should be the way we all operate. But why not do that in the first place and actually accomplish something rather than spraying a bunch of rhetoric around? I'll tell you why: because Americans aren't listening to each other any more, nor are we having useful dialogue across party lines. You have to pretend to be 1000% conservative or 1000% liberal these days or you're branded a "flip-flopper". What pure idiocy.

Kasich got elected by promising Republicans and Tea Partiers the moon, and once elected he realized that Ohio is only half-Republican, and that he'll never be able to deliver. It's easier to tell your base that you'll do everything they want, and then blame the opposition when you fail. That's the oldest trick in the book. The nation at large is struggling with the same problem. You can hate your politcal opponents as much as you want, but even if you defeat them in elections they are still there, and will continue to be there. If you don't work with them you will get nowhere in the long term. It's not easy (quite the contrary), but it is necessary.

Some politicans and activists say we need to "take back America". Just who are we taking it from? And how? And what happens to them once we take it? No matter what happens in November, half the country will remain liberal and the other half conservative. It's easy to forget that when listening to campaign rhetoric.

Hitler's politcal career was meteoric in its rise, and he remained popular until the latter stages of WWII. His failure was largely military, not political. In fact, had he left the running of the war to his generals he might not have lost it.

Kasich delivered to his backers with SB5. It was repealed by the voters, rather than failing in the
General Assembly.

Who the hell do you think he is? Chuck Norris? GBS?

What did he deliver though? The initiative was a failure because it was too aggressive and partisan.

So what do you guys really think of KCBus and the other mods?

I am not sure if anyone else feels this way but to kind of touch on sidefoot said. I don't feel like either said wants to listen to the other side. To get voted they have to play to the "hardcore" republicans or liberals, which in turns paints them into a corner when they get to office because those are the people who still get out and actually vote (generally speaking). I think Republicans and Liberals have fundamental differences in how this country should be ran and neither said really wants to give an inch because they fear they will lose mile.

Far too partisan these days, but the Republicans know as long as they pass nothing Obama's chances diminish by the day.

The reality is with the way the global economy is going he ain't got much of a chance anyway.

Republicans have failed if they are simply trying to stonewall Obama out of office. I think Congress' reputation has suffered from that more than the president has. Some conservatives seem to think that by simply refusing to work with the Obama administration, the entire liberal half of America will eventually dry up and blow away.

The more it becomes a duel to the death between the parties, the worse off everybody is.

You are 100% correct.