The 'Classic Clips' Thread

Discussion in 'Germany' started by Gregoriak, Jul 21, 2007.

  1. poorvi

    poorvi Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
    Bombay
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Thanks!

    Yes, this was the goal. I remember commentator talking about this in a thick Swabian accent, something to the tune of 'defense turning into a counter turning into a goal'. Unfortunately, my German is very poor and I couldn't comprehend it in totality. But nevertheless, it sounded good.
    The afro hairstyle and the green jersey of one of the Mexican players got me confused. I mistook them for Algeria. :p
     
  2. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    I wouldn't call it an Afro, it is a separate category, the "Cuellar". :D

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  3. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #278 Gregoriak, May 19, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013
    In two parts, Germany vs. Sweden 1984. The famous "Uwe Rahn debut" game...

    Germany vs. Sweden
    Cologne, 17/10/1984, attendance: 61,000, referee:
    Valentine (Scotland), World Cup Qualifier


    Germany:
    1 Schumacher - 2 Brehme, 5 Herget, 4 Kh.Förster, 3 Briegel - 6 Jakobs,
    8 Matthäus, 10 Magath (75. Rahn), 7 Falkenmayer - 9 Völler, 11 Rummenigge

    Sweden:
    1 T.Ravelli - 2 Erlandsson (33. Borg), 3 Hysen, 4 Dahlquist, 5 Frederiksson - 8 Eriksson, 7 Strömberg, 6 Tord Holmgren, 11 Tom Holmgren - 10 Corneliusson (70. Holmquist), 9 Gren



     
  4. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #279 Gregoriak, May 21, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013
    Germany v Malta
    Saarbrücken, 27/03/1985, attendance: 45,000
    Referee: Tokat (Turkey), World Cup Qualifier


    Germany:
    1 Schumacher - 2 Berthold, 5 Herget, 4 Kh.Förster, 3 Frontzeck - 8 Rahn (66. Thon),
    6 Briegel (76. Brehme), 10 Magath - 7 Littbarski, 9 Völler, 11 K.H.Rummenigge

    Malta:
    Bonello - Woods, Holland, Buttigieg, A.Azopardi - Degiorgio, Vella, Busuttil, E.Farrugia (58. Aquilana) - L.Farrugia, Mizzi (82. R.Xuereb)





     
  5. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #280 Gregoriak, May 24, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013
    Sweden v Germany
    Stockholm, 25/09/1985, attendance: 39,157
    Referee: van Longenhove (Belgium), World Cup Qualifier


    Sweden:
    1 T. Ravelli - 2 Erlandsson, 3 Hysen, 4 Dahlquist, 5 Frederiksson - 8 A.Ravelli (89. M.Magnusson), 6 Prytz, 7 Strömberg, 11 Svensson (77. Holmquist) - 10 Corneliussion, 9 T.Nilsson

    Germany:
    1 Schumacher - 2 Berthold, 5 Augenthaler, 4 Kh.Förster, 3 Brehme - 6 Jakobs, 10 Herget, 8 Briegel - 7 Littbarski,
    9 Völler, 11 Rummenigge



     
  6. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #281 Gregoriak, Jun 7, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013
    Next up, the intense 1989 World Cup Qualifying game Holland vs. Germany at Rotterdam.

    Holland v Germany

    26.04.1989 - World Cup Qualifier, Rotterdam (55,000)

    Holland:
    Hiele - R.Koeman - van Tiggelen, Rijkaard, van Aerle - E.Koeman, Vanenburg, Hofkens (84. Rutjes), Huistra (74. Eijkelkamp) - van Basten, Winter

    Germany:
    Illgner - Berthold - Kohler (74. Rolff), Buchwald - Reuter, Hässler, Matthäus, Möller, Brehme - Riedle, Völler (34. Klinsmann)



     
  7. deleted

    deleted Member

    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    nice work G...when will they be removed? ;):p
     
  8. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich

    YouTube won't see me uploading any of the clips that led them to delete my original Gregoriak channel back then. Thus no Feyenoord vs Celtic 1970 or any ITV games featuring Germany in the '86 or '90 World Cups (as well as the 1982 European Cup final). Hence I feel pretty safe at the moment. :) (what will get deleted someday however will be the RetroFootballFootage Channel -> I'm surprised they still haven't because I'm giving no quarter to copyright owners there...).
     
  9. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    That looks like a weak Dutch team. Were they missing a few players or was Beenhakker just being an idiot?
     
  10. deleted

    deleted Member

    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    what? where do you access this retrofootballchannel?


    edit : ok now worries found it ;)
     
  11. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Wouldn't call them weak but several key players from the 1988 Euro final were missing. Gullit was injured, I don't know why Hans van Breukelen wasn't in goal. Also Jan Wouters and Arnold Muhren were missing (I guess Muhren had retired at that point). In their place Hiele, Winter, Hofkens and Huistra played.
     
  12. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich

    Once ARD and/or ZDF find those clips, they will demand everything to be removed. I'm expecting it any day.
     
  13. deleted

    deleted Member

    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    still, they seemed like they dominated. I can't believe a midfield of matthaeus, moeller and haessler were on the defensive so much
     
  14. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    One name: Andi Möller. Stank up the place as usual. There was a reason he sat on the bench during Italia 90. :p

    Seriously, that Holland side was no team to be pushed around, even if not full strength, plus they not only played at home, but in Rotterdam, in front of one the most ferocious groups of spectators in European football, and finally, they were a goal down for most of the second half so naturally had to attack.
     
  15. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
  16. poorvi

    poorvi Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
    Bombay
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I am not sure this is the thread to discuss this, but here goes anyways.
    Why do you hold Rotterdam in such high esteem, as though its the last bastion that German football hasn't been able to storm? If I recollect right, in August 05, a depleted German side, came from two goals down to tie a game with a full strength Dutch team, with Ballack scoring twice.( remember, those days the Dutch were a top 3 ranked team , and Germany languished in the 15-25 ranks because it didn't have qualifiers to play). Also, I think Germany's last victory over the Dutch in 1996, came in a friendly in Rotterdam.

    Its hardly a nightmare venue for Germany. The record in Florence or Sofia could be worse. :p
     
  17. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #292 Gregoriak, Jun 13, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013
    GERMANY v SWEDEN
    4th November 1964, World Cup Qualifier, Berlin,
    attendance: 74,000, referee: Dienst (Switzerland)


    Germany
    1 Tilkowski - 2 Nowak, 5 Giesemann, 6 Weber, 3 Schnellinger - 4 Szymaniak, 10 Overath - 7 Brunnenmeier,
    8 Haller, 9 Seeler, 11 G.Dörfel

    Sweden
    Arvidsson - Rosander, Bergmark, Jonsson, Wing - Simonsson, Mild - Andersson, Martinsson, Hamrin, Lindskog



     
  18. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Those two games you mentioned had no meaning. The stadium wasn't even half-filled in 1996 as I remember. Had these been qualification games, it would have been a different story.

    My judgment of de Kuip in Rotterdam is based on games I've seen played there either by Feyenoord (e.g. vs. AC Milan in 1969) or by Holland (1974 Euro qualifier vs. Italy). The crowd was tremendous in those games. You could check the Holland forum and ask them what they think historically was/is the finest crowd in Holland. Even staunch Feyenoord haters will acknowledge that.

    Sofia?
     
  19. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #294 Gregoriak, Jun 21, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013
    Highlights from Günter Netzer's first international game. Also of interest is - starting 2:15 in the second clip - commentator Rudi Michel's remarks on Germany switching from zonal defense to man-marking during the second half. Considering that influential coaches like Ralf Rangnick these days seriously claim that zonal defense was not practised in Germany until the mid-1990s when Volker Finke 'introduced' it successfully at SC Freiburg. One of the most ridiculous claims ever made within the German football media.

    GERMANY 4-1 AUSTRIA
    9th October 1965, friendly, Stuttgart
    Attendance: 74,000, referee: Dienst (Switzerland)


    GERMANY
    1 Tilkowski - 2 Höttges, 5 Sieloff, 6 Weber, 3 Lorenz - 4 Beckenbauer, 10 Netzer - 7 Nafziger, 8 Ulsass, 9 Brunnenmeier, 11 Krämer

    AUSTRIA
    1 Fraydl - 2 Pumm, 3 Binder, 4 Ludescher, 5 Frank - 9 Hasil, 6 Ullmann - 7 Hirnschrodt (24. Viehböck, 78. Köglberger), 8 Buzek, 10 Flögel, 11 Macek



     
  20. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #295 Gregoriak, Jun 29, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013
    Jürgen Grabowski's magnificent goal against Sepp Maier & Bayern Munich from November 1975 (Eintracht Frankfurt 6-0 Bayern).

     
  21. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #296 Gregoriak, Jul 4, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013
    Germany's third victory at Wembley:

    ENGLAND v GERMANY
    London, Wembley stadium
    11 September 1991, attendance: 59,453
    Referee: Spirin (Soviet Union)
    International friendly


    ENGLAND
    1 Woods - 2 Dixon, 5 Pallister, 6 Parker, 3 Dorigo - 4 Batty, 7 Platt, 8 Steven
    (67. Stuart) - 9 A.Smith, 10 Lineker, 11 Salako (67. Merson)

    GERMANY
    1 Illgner - 5 Effenberg, 2 Binz, 4 Kohler, 3 Brehme - 6 Buchwald, 8 Hässler, 10 Matthäus,
    7 Möller - 9 Riedle, 11 Doll (81. Klinsmann)







     
  22. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    That's interesting. Doll was used as a striker and England didn't play with a 4-4-2 formation.
     
  23. Borussia

    Borussia Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    Fürth near Nuremberg
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    In order to confuse the English. :p As we see, it worked perfectly! ;)


    Btw: 9 players of that German team are Italians. :))
     
  24. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Only Illgner, Binz and Buchwald didn't play in Italy. Guido wouldn't have been too bad if he did decide to play in the Serie A or if anyone was interested at the time.
     
  25. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #300 Gregoriak, Jul 13, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013
    GERMANY 6-1 FINLAND

    Dortmund, Westfalenstadion, 04/10/1989
    World Cup Qualifier, attendance: 40,000
    Referee: Snoddy (Northern Ireland)


    GERMANY
    1 Illgner - 2 Reuter, 5 Augenthaler, 4 Buchwald, 3 Brehme - 6 Hässler (46. Bein),
    7 Littbarski, 10 Matthäus, 8 Möller (80. Mill) - 9 Völler, 11 Klinsmann

    FINLAND
    1 Laukkanen - 2 Lahtinen, 4 Europaeus, 3 Heikkinen, 5 Holmgren - 8 Ikalainen (71. Hjelm), 9 Myyry, 7 Ukkonen, 6 Tarkkio - 11 Lipponen, 10 Paatelainen (62. Lius)





     

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