The Cerezo Osaka Thread

Discussion in 'Japanese Club Football' started by nipponbasse83, Jun 17, 2007.

  1. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    In general I do sympathize with Kansai teams, but still I found it hard to seriously "follow" Sanga and Vissel, as I believe that most of us in this forum would run those clubs better than their actual management. :cool:

    So, this year I believe I will follow mostly Cerezo and Gamba, especially now that I have got to know some of the players.
     
  2. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    It's only two divisions! Cerezo and Consadole are my favorite teams, but I sympathize with Urawa Reds and Gamba Osaka as well.

    Dream scenario for this season would be Cerezo J1 champion+ACL Champion+ FIFA CWC Champion with Urawa and Gamba for 2nd and 3rd (in the league), and Consadole winning J2 and Emperor's Cup:rolleyes:.

    The Nabisco could be up for grabs.
     
  3. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    All four teams already jinxed!! :D:D:D
     
  4. MattKenny89

    MattKenny89 New Member

    Feb 18, 2011
    United Kingdom
    Alright guys, what would you say Cerezo's best 11 is now that Adriano has moved to Gamba?
     
  5. artml

    artml Member

    Liverpool FC
    Ukraine
    Jul 11, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Smth like this:

    [LINEUP-4-3-3]Inui, Pimpão, Kiyotake, Kim BK, Martinez, Kurata, Uemoto, Moniwa, Maruhashi, Fujimoto, Kim JH[/LINEUP-4-3-3]
     
  6. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    No Uemoto ?

    (Shu Kurata, great pickup. I'm not sure about Martinez being efficient in the same role Amaral used to have ... Bummer that he had to leave)
     
  7. artml

    artml Member

    Liverpool FC
    Ukraine
    Jul 11, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Somehow I spelled him as Ueda :eek: shame on me.

    Defense is actually my biggest worry for the coming season. We only have Martinez in the midfield and a bunch of very young defenders – Kim SG, Ryosuke Tada, Takahiro Ogihara... Hell knows how they fit in, hope that Culpi knows.
     
  8. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    I was checking the website and I just noticed some players grew up during this winter ... Komatsu was 187cm, he's now 191cm, Ryo Nagai is 180cm ...
    If it helps Komatsu being more dominant, I'm fine with it :cool: .
     
  9. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    I think Culpi will stick to his usual 4-2-3-1 formation and then it will look more like this:

    -----------------Kim-------------------
    Takahashi, Uemoto,Moniwa,Maruhashi
    ------Martinez,Chugo/Fujimoto-------
    ---Kiyotake-----Inui------Kim---------
    ---------------Pimpao-------------------
     
  10. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Kiyotake not a starter, lately :mad:
    Did not fully recover from injury.
     
  11. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
  12. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Here is the interview with Bando in English...

    http://www.goal.com/en/news/1999/in...exclusive-interview-j-league-star-ryuji-bando

    I would really appreciate your comments on goal.com, as if there is enough positive feedback, they will likely to go on with more interviews...

    It was a HARD job to convince a J.League club to have one of their players interviewed for a website and in English. Hopefully, it is just the beginning...

    So, please... :)
     
  13. AmericanKaka

    AmericanKaka Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Nice work, Goru!
    Yeah, asking Bando not to celebrate a goal would be like asking Pippo not to celebrate a goal... not gonna happen.

    Here's my feedback: interview a lot of crappy older players to drum iup interest for them in Europe, then when they go over there and disappoint, we can hang on to more of our good young players.
     
  14. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Haha... Bando actually HAS a good offer from abroad, but perhaps next season. Cerezo paid him fairly well this year!

    I hope your comment on goal.com would be nicer.

    Japanese soccer really needs some more exposure overseas, and by the way I am still doing this on voluntary basis...

    And BTW I see you're already in the mood for Juve-Milan, which we will easily win, since at this point counts for nothing! :cool:
     
  15. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    One question: why that was so damn short :)
     
  16. cisco80

    cisco80 Member

    Feb 9, 2008
    yokohama
    First game of 2011 ACL Group G done. And it's a 2-1 win. Did anyone see the match?
     
  17. artml

    artml Member

    Liverpool FC
    Ukraine
    Jul 11, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    You may still watch it at kazanby videos.

    Or here's the highlights: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejIDY8OtIZc"]YouTube - ACL 2011 3?2?(?) ?????? vs ????????? ????????[/ame]
     
  18. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Scoop: Sanga-Cerezo on Kyoto on 3/26. :)

    Watch it, because my plan to move Bando to Sanga starts on that day! :D
     
  19. Matsu

    Matsu Member

    Mar 28, 2001
    Ive heard a lot of rumours about various other charity events, but its hard to find a good compilation. That may be partly because a lot of the plans are still undetermined (eg. Albirex announced a "kohaku-sen" for next weekend but now Ventforet is saying they may travel to Big Swan to turn it into a full friendly). However it would be nice to have a full compilation

    I think it would be worth while to create a separate thread so people can post news, rumours and other information about such events, then I can compile them all on the RSN and make updates as new news comes in.

    PS: Sorry Ive been out of contact for so long but Ive been buried by a tsunami of translation requests from clients I havent heard from in years. It seems like half the foreigners in the country have run away home, and the translation industry is suddenly left without any staff. Ill try to post some news on my site in the next few days, but if I disappear again for a few days its either because Im too busy, or because the power is out . . . . . :( :( :(
     
  20. dokool

    dokool Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 11, 2006
    Tokyo, Japan
    Club:
    FC Tokyo
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    *cough*
     
  21. grassroots

    grassroots New Member

    Apr 10, 2010
    Sapporo
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    England
  22. artml

    artml Member

    Liverpool FC
    Ukraine
    Jul 11, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjH1-_K7uqQ"]YouTube - ‪C??×??F??????‬‏[/ame]
    Defensive play like this makes me cry.
     
  23. AmericanKaka

    AmericanKaka Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Good grief, it looked like the Eredivisie out there.
    Plus the patented crap keeping of the J-League.
     
  24. artml

    artml Member

    Liverpool FC
    Ukraine
    Jul 11, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Cerezo attendances in 2010
    Code:
    [SIZE=2][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2][B]Visitor          [/B][/SIZE][SIZE=2][B]Venue       [/B][/SIZE][SIZE=2][B]Attendance[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=black][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]Gamba            [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Nagai       [/SIZE][SIZE=2]37,860  ← local derby[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=navy][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]Reds             [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Nagai       [/SIZE][SIZE=2]16,261[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=navy][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]Sanga            [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Nagai        [/SIZE][SIZE=2]8,926[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=navy][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]Bellmare         [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Nagai        [/SIZE][SIZE=2]9,838[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=navy][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]Grampus          [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Nagai       [/SIZE][SIZE=2]13,867[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=navy][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]Antlers          [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Nagai       [/SIZE][SIZE=2]21,761[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=navy][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]Vissel           [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Nagai       [/SIZE][SIZE=2]17,001[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=navy][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]Montedio         [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Nagai       [/SIZE][SIZE=2]19,880[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=magenta][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]Frontale         [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Kincho      [/SIZE][SIZE=2]14,031[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=magenta][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]F.C.Tokyo        [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Kincho       [/SIZE][SIZE=2]9,086[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=magenta][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]Ardija           [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Kincho       [/SIZE][SIZE=2]9,799[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=navy][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]Sanfrecce        [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Nagai       [/SIZE][SIZE=2]20,286[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=magenta][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]Albirex          [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Kincho       [/SIZE][SIZE=2]8,041[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=magenta][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]Vegalta          [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Kincho       [/SIZE][SIZE=2]9,441[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=magenta][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]S-Pulse          [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Kincho      [/SIZE][SIZE=2]10,877[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=magenta][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]F. Marinos       [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Kincho      [/SIZE][SIZE=2]13,473[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=magenta][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]Júbilo           [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Kincho      [/SIZE][SIZE=2]15,011[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
     
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=navy][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]Nagai average                [/SIZE][SIZE=2]18,409[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][I][COLOR=navy][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]  except Gamba               [/SIZE][SIZE=2]15,978[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][COLOR=magenta][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=2]Kincho average               [/SIZE][SIZE=2]11,220[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [B][FONT=Courier New]2010 season average          15,026[/FONT][/B]
     
    [FONT=Courier New]2009 average [COLOR=navy](Nagai, J2)[/COLOR]      9,912[/FONT]
    [FONT=Courier New]2011 average [COLOR=magenta](Kincho, J1)[/COLOR]     8,413[/FONT]
    It is perfectly clear that a move to Kincho resulted in about 5K drop in attendances -- almost 30%.
     
  25. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I think thou it might be considered how to operate Kincho surely costs much less.

    Honestly, a stadium like Kincho or Hitachi with 10,000 genki supporters is just what most J.Clubs need. I love Kincho.
     

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