The Big "Paucity of English Youth Talent" Debate!

It's ok for the world class talents. But you still want hard working just very good players to break through and it's a big jump from U21s football to PL football. Rothwell and Pearson will find it difficult and if they do make it I think they'll have a few loan spells first. Clubs have to want to take the players, it takes the development of a player out of the parent clubs control.
I don't agree with the way Uniteds youth system works, there seems a lot of stubborn traditionalism that prevents it going forward. The Lancashire Cup over the U21 cup is an example of that IMO.

 

I agree with everything you said tbh. That's something I would like United to incorporate, but part of their mantra is that everyone has a chance and that gets taken too far sometimes. Uniteds style I agree is poor and it's what I was referring to when I talked about stubborn traditionalism. Without bashing all English coaches, Joyce is too English and old fashioned in everything and for the technical level present in Uniteds U19 group (which IMO is the best since the Morrison Pogba era). The man refuses to wear anything but shorts FFS. Then again, for me, Brentan Rogers is the only top class British coach around, let alone English. I cant help but wonder how good Scholes would have become if he had someone like Guardiola coaching him from a young age, it's frightening.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/football...sociation-fa-england-under-20s-steven-gerrard

I don't know if this article was mentionned here. worrying.

 

Much ado about nothing in my opinion. Beck is by all accounts a very good coach educator, and will be teaching the curriculum he is set. Boothroyd is someone Ashworth knows very well, but whom Southgate interviewed. I know he has a history in academy development, but I don't know much about it. Ashworth hasn't put a foot wrong yet however, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. It strikes me as a bit silly to be throwing the entire philosophy moving forward into doubt just because of these personnel changes.

 

it's not about "throwing the entire philosophy into doubt", it's about making baffling apointments. Noel Blake and Eastick damaged generations of players, every appointment is important.

 

this comes a few days after Dyke basically said Wenger was one of the reason England didn't produce more players. could he be more clueless than that ?

 

That is what the article implies. This all assuming that Boothroyd doesn't have a talent for developing players, which seems pretty baseless.

You're getting a bit creative with the truth there. He referenced Arsene's mentality that English players don't play because they're aren't good enough, which is something he's said many times in the past.

 

tbh I just saw that on twitter I didn't read his interview. so maybe I got carried away.
as for Boothroyd, why would we want a manager known for long ball tactics in charge of young players development ? this is not right.

 

I'm guessing (hoping) he got the job based on his work as a youth team coach and Youth Development Officer/Technical Director. Not really bothered about his reputation if he can do the job well.

 

I would not have chosen him but like I have said before let us see how the U20's team play's under him before we start the mud slinging

 

United is in a big slide atm, they need a better manager and soon becausethey have become a laughing stock