The American's on Fx

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  1. Belgian guy

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    I do agree a bit with Naughtius about the baby getting back to Russia.
    After killing the mother, why would they bother with smuggling the baby back to Russia?
     
  2. Felixx219

    Felixx219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 8, 2004
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    It's probably an honor thing. The baby is of Russian descent and a descentant of one of their soldiers/spies so returning it to the family is probably a thing of honor and respect for their country and their culture.
     
  3. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    I suppose they were trying to keep the spies happy. I think they suspect they're both a bit flakey and not without some justification.
     
  4. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Well, yeah but there are probably significant risks in doing it. It's not like you can send a baby via DHL is it :D
     
  5. Felixx219

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    Not really. You're talking about an organization that has spies living as regular people all over the country. Getting a baby out of the country is probably a piece of cake. A boat would probably make it fairly easy or if they can get fake docs for adults, babies would be really easy.
     
  6. Alberto

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    No, no. They said that to the widow to appease her. It was not aimed at the husband and wife KGB agents.
     
  7. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    What's the point of appeasing her if they're going to kill her anyway? Also, why didn't she just shoot the mother there and then or tell the KGB couple to kill her?
     
  8. Alberto

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    They had to transport her out of an area crawling with FBI. Much easier to get her to cooperate and keep the baby quiet than kill her and have to deal with an upset infant without mom. Once they left the hot zone they could deal with the mom under more controlled conditions.
     
  9. Alberto

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    Another good episode last night.
     
  10. Chesco United

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    Indeed.
     
  11. Belgian guy

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    Very good episode.
    If I want to nitpick, then Stan just casually telling his neighbors what must still be very sensitive information at that point did seem a bit odd.
     
  12. Belgian guy

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  13. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    I wondered how they would handle that but the way it was presented it seemed OK to me. Mind you, it also came across as him just reassuring a friend who was worried so maybe what he was saying wasn't telling the truth.

    IIRC, (and bear in mind we're going back a few years ;)), it was said pretty much right away that Reagan was going to be OK. Hague was just making 'clucking noises', (as the little woman calls them), to reassure people they weren't defenceless.

    The thing that worries me slightly is, where are they going with the FBI fella and his wife having 'marital problems'?? ... and this should interest me, why, precisely???
     
  14. Alberto

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    Wife swapping or infidelity? Maybe a key party followed by Blackmail. ;)
     
  15. Matt in the Hat

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    Is this show any good? They are filming on my block and taking all the street parking.
     
  16. Alberto

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    It actually is quite good. Set in the cold war era at the time of Reagan. Star Wars technology, the fall of the Berlin Wall. The novelty of the show is that the two Soviet agents are in super deep cover posing as a husband and wife. They have teenage kids who have no idea their parents are spies. Also, the husband is more open to accepting and understanding the US and far more of an independent thinker and less indoctrinated than his wife. He gets America. His wife does not.
     
  17. Belgian guy

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    I think it's a follow up to that moment in the pilot where he froze when someone mentioned his time undercover with the white supremacist group. I think Stan will be revealed to be increasingly mentally instable.
     
  18. Belgian guy

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    I believe Philip and Elizabeth both came to America as pure ideologues.
    They have just taken very different paths since then. Where Philip's experiences living in the US seem to have frayed his belief in the cause, Elizabeth has only gotten more determined. I don't think the point is that Elizabeth does not get America, she just perceives it through the prism of what was told to her about the place prior to her mission. Philip seems to perceive his new "home" from a more neutral position.
     
  19. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Hopefully... as long as it doesn't start to go towards Elizabeth having to try and get secrets out of him using her 'feminine wiles', (showing my age with that phrase :D), and creating marital difficulties between her and Phillip. That's got Peyton Place written ALL over it, IOW a quite OBVIOUS 'plot device' :(

    It's been pretty good so far so hopefully they'll resist the temptation.
     
  20. Alberto

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    Elizabeth after the fall of the Soviet Union goes on to a quiet life in America, but her peace is shattered when she experience visits from extra terrestrials. ;)
     
  21. Felixx219

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    Agreed. I think there have been some moments since the pilot where there have been signs of that such as his paranoia after someone told hi the KGB spies act just like normal American families and he proceeds to break into their house to check their car. There were some other moments too but cant think of them right off the top of my head.
     
  22. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Yep, that's my bet as well ;) :D
     
  23. Area 51

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    lmao

    I just came back from seeing that movie, there were a few creepy moments..enough that it makes me a bit paranoid right now.

    Loving this series so far, my favourite part might be how the FBI officer got the Soviet female secretary to be his mole..a very realistic take on how it could happen and how such a stupid and innocently inconsequential activity could net someone in a uncompromising situation.
     
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  24. Dante

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    Actually it was the Ukraine.

    As soon as Donetsk flashed up on the screen I immediately blurted out Shakhtar Donetsk. My wife asked me what I was saying, I told her it was the name of a football team, Juve played them in the Champions League this season. She just rolled her eyes at me.
     
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  25. Alberto

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    Thanks, some of my Ukrainian friends will not be pleased that I missed that.
     

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