The All-Purpose (Lovefest Inducing) Mesut Oezil Thread

mymy33 · Oct 16, 2010

squidward123 said: ↑

Only 'starting'?? Better keep trying then
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You do so at your own peril then, it's like they say, "better to live in the corner of a roof...."

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mymy33 said: ↑

You do so at your own peril then, it's like they say, "better to live in the corner of a roof...."
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SirManchester · Oct 17, 2010

mymy33 said: ↑

You're starting to get a little bit annoying but for the record the real test will be Tuesday since he's been blowing hot and cold in his time here, a couple of awesome performances followed by a couple "un-awesome" performances. I hope he is beginning to hit his stride so that I can continue to pat myself on the back (and demand thanks from my fellow Madridistas) for reviving his real Madrid career with my lovest induction thread.
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his time at madrid has undoubtedly been more positive than negative, not hot and cold as you say. you seem to have a more personal problem with him. Also Sami if i remember correctly. are you generally so ambivalent towards new players or just the two germans?

-Fifth CharM- · Oct 17, 2010

Ozil has been more superb than subpar so far, and deserves all the praise he is getting. He is delivering what we paid obscene amount for Kaka to do but never did.

As for Khedira; He has been solid in terms play. He and Xabi Alonso cliked instantly and are the reason we are dominating midfields. He plays in a unglamorous and ungrateful position so therefor will never receive the recognition that he deserves, but is an important player.

blanc · Oct 17, 2010

German influence was positive against Malaga

Wish that thunderbolt from Khedz went in

4x4s · Oct 17, 2010

-Fifth CharM- said: ↑

Ozil has been more superb than subpar so far, and deserves all the praise he is getting.
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Quite right.

mymy33 · Oct 17, 2010

SirManchester said: ↑

his time at madrid has undoubtedly been more positive than negative, not hot and cold as you say. you seem to have a more personal problem with him. Also Sami if i remember correctly. are you generally so ambivalent towards new players or just the two germans?
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Lol, I don't have a personal problem with Oezil. And while his time might have been more positive than negative there have been games where he has been mediocre or invisible. And I know there were certain circumstances that have contributed to those "lesser" performances, the biggest of all him just needing time to adapt to a new league and team but they have been there. He provided a spark off the bench against Mallorca and then followed that up with a brilliant, complete performance against Osauna and a solid outing against Ajax. He was okay against Sociedad and then nothing to write home about against Espanyol and Levante. But then he picked it up a little against Auxerre, had a lovely game against Depor and then followed that up with another lovely game yesterday. To me that's not ambivalence towards the player or a personal dislike but just an observation he's been hot and cold.

For the record I have never spoke out against his quality and potential as a player. I though his signing was unnecessary but when he came I welcomed him like I do with all RM players.

Alma Merengue · Oct 17, 2010

The guys on Gol TV were calling him "El Mago de Oz" (the Wizard of Oz). I like it! He is a joy to watch.

Is it me or does it look like his personality is starting to show a bit more? He seems a bit more confident; like he knows he 'belongs' on this squad.

ps. el Mago de Oz is also a Spanish band, but I am pretty sure the two dudes on Gol TV were not referring to them

mymy33 · Oct 17, 2010

Alma Merengue said: ↑

Is it me or does it look like his personality is starting to show a bit more? He seems a bit more confident; like he knows he 'belongs' on this squad.
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I thought his performance yesterday was better than the one against Osasuna and I think part of that was him being more confident like you say. I'm not sure if trust is the right word but his teammates, especially Ronaldo and Higuain, look to be developing a better understanding with him on the pitch. There was some really pretty and intricate buildup in the game yesterday of which Oezil was at the center. More of that please.

-Fifth CharM- · Oct 17, 2010

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twYbJB4qKEI&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - Mesut Özil vs Malaga Away by CR10[/ame]

Zullu · Oct 19, 2010

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM2ci41pIU4&feature=player_embedded#"]YouTube - Mesut Özil bei Oliver Pocher SAT 1 / Pocher verarscht Mesut Özil.[/ame]!

4x4s · Oct 19, 2010

Pocher is probably the most annoying German comedian along with Mario Barth. They were both funny at some point though, back when Ingo Appelt was all the rage at the comedy club.

Zaknaf3in · Oct 19, 2010

I actually loved his Oli Kahn and Poldi performances.

berloha · Oct 19, 2010

Zullu said: ↑

YouTube - Mesut Özil bei Oliver Pocher SAT 1 / Pocher verarscht Mesut Özil.!
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Good game from him, I think his passing was superb for about 70 minutes, lol that he was subbed out directly after he played 2 bad passes in a row.

I agree with some of compare him with playmakers of Zidane / Riquelme, when it comes to the way he can hold the ball even with two, three opponent on his feet AND the ball is superb.

SirManchester · Oct 19, 2010

what's great about him is that he can contribute tremendously even when he's not having a perfect match simply because of his intelligence. He will always provide moments as long as he is on the pitch. For players like Higuain and Ronaldo, he must be an absolute godsend.

Is he the perfect modern playmaker? Not exactly a midfielder, not exactly an attacker, but pulling the strings all around, controlling the tempo, playing both flanks. He only needs to improve his finishing.

Shay Z · Oct 19, 2010

I wish he would see more of the ball. Our outlet pass from the midfield is almost always to Ronnie, which isn't a bad thing if he were to pass more but he just runs and takes shots until he gets his goal and then he starts passing a bit. Ozil would create more chances and have more impact on the game if he had the ball a bit more.

mymy33 · Oct 19, 2010

You can all thank me later for reopening this thread.

Oezil was lovely tonight. When he is on he is nice to watch, so damn silky. That front four is really beginning to develop a lovely understanding of one another and they're only going to get better as the season goes on.

berloha · Oct 19, 2010

what's great about him is that he can contribute tremendously even when he's not having a perfect match
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Yes, Sir !

I'd even say that this is what makes Ozil unique, and puts him above all other young players.

Most of today's player's are more or less useless if they are 'not on fire' (Rooney-type), but Ozil, I feel, is rare material and reminds me of those cracks some years ago,....you know players who are going to play on a high level not only for some games but for some seasons.

SirManchester · Oct 19, 2010

berloha said: ↑

Yes, Sir !

I'd even say that this is what makes Ozil unique, and puts him above all other young players.

Most of today's player's are more or less useless if they are 'not on fire' (Rooney-type), but Ozil, I feel, is rare material and reminds me of those cracks some years ago,....you know players who are going to play on a high level not only for some games but for some seasons.
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well i wouldnt use Rooney as an example as I think he falls in the Oezil category too (remember the years when Ronnie was on fire, he was the real heartbeat of the side - not that he's like that this season) but i definitely get your point and i agree with the rest.

it must also be quite fantastic for Msut to have such skilled players as Di Maria, Ronaldo, and Higuain around to combine with. A definite upgrade on Fritz if you ask me.

ForeverRed · Oct 19, 2010

Shay Z said: ↑

I wish he would see more of the ball. Our outlet pass from the midfield is almost always to Ronnie, which isn't a bad thing if he were to pass more but he just runs and takes shots until he gets his goal and then he starts passing a bit. Ozil would create more chances and have more impact on the game if he had the ball a bit more.
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Something that Mourinho should iron out over time.

berloha · Oct 19, 2010

SirManchester said: ↑

well i wouldnt use Rooney as an example as I think he falls in the Oezil category too
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Okay, different opinions here. I think the English man is maybe lacking the brain (not on pitch!) which is making the difference between him and Ozil.

hackespitze123 · Oct 19, 2010

SirManchester said: ↑

A definite upgrade on Fritz if you ask me.
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Pfft. That may be true, but him, Marin, Hunt and Pizarro combining the crap out of Bundesliga defences last season wasn't too shabby either.

Glad he is doing well, hope and actually expect him to do the next step in Madrid.

berloha · Oct 19, 2010

Wow, I had no idea that Ozil was in the famous mine to support Mario Gomez there,
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIXuOdyOpc0"]YouTube - Mesut Özil (Oliver Pocher) aus Grube in Chile gerettet (15.10.2010 HD)[/ame]

4x4s · Oct 19, 2010

I like how all clips have two premises, his bad German, and his dull personality.

Good thing that neither matters for us.

toslat · Oct 20, 2010

I think CR being our favored outlet option is because he is our best player at running at defence on the counter, and when he has the ball, opposition will often overload their defence in his direction, creating more space for other players (problem is now getting CR to release the ball to others quickly if at all). Oezil is more suited to the delibrate build up.