The 92nd (2012) Emperor's Cup Thread

Discussion in 'Japanese Club Football' started by -Kodemari, Aug 28, 2012.

  1. -Kodemari

    -Kodemari Member

    Jan 15, 2012
    Trento, Italy
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Pairings and venues for the third round, all games will be played on Wednesday at 7pm Japanese time.

    Kashiwa Reysol - Shonan Bellmare (Hitachi Stadium, Kashiwa)
    Nagano Parceiro - Yokogawa Musashino (Atsubetsu Park Stadium, Sapporo)
    Jubilo Iwata - Kyoto Sanga FC (Yamaha Stadium, Iwata)
    Sagawa Shiga - JEF United Ichihara Chiba (Home's Stadium, Kobe)
    Vegalta Sendai - Roasso Kumamoto (Yurtec Stadium, Sendai)
    Omiya Ardija - Avispa Fukuoka (Kumagaya Stadium, Kumagaya)
    Yokohama F. Marinos - Yokohama FC (Nissan Stadium, Yokohama)
    Cerezo Osaka - Montedio Yamagata (Kincho Stadium, Osaka)
    Fagiano Okayama - Nagoya Grampus (Toyama Athletic Stadium, Toyama)
    Kamatamare Sanuki - Urawa Red Diamonds (Saga Stadium, Saga)
    FC Imabari - Machida Zelvia (Big Arch Stadium, Hiroshima)
    Shimizu S-Pulse - Tokyo Verdy (Outsorcing! Stadium, Shizuoka)
    Gamba Osaka - Mito HollyHock (Banpaku Stadium, Suita)
    Albirex Niigata - Fukushima United (Big Swan Stadium, Niigata)
    Kashima Antlers - Gainare Tottori (Kashima Stadium, Kashima)
    Kawasaki Frontale - Tokushima Vortis (Todoroki Stadium, Kawasaki)
     
  2. mv_nelson

    mv_nelson Member

    Jun 22, 2008
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    The games to be broadcast are:

    Kamatamare Sanuki - Urawa Red Diamonds (Saga Stadium, Saga) - LIVE (7pm 10th Oct)

    and

    Albirex Niigata - Fukushima United (Big Swan Stadium, Niigata) - DELAY (1am 11th oct)

    The highlights/Digest Show is at 6pm on Friday 12th Oct and repeated at 2:20am that night.


    Awesome choice of games to broadcast, NHK/JFA. :sick: Well, I'm glad that Fukushima Unite get some attention, at least.
     
  3. CND_MARINO

    CND_MARINO Member

    Oct 30, 2010
    Ontario
    Club:
    Yokohama F Marinos
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    My only conclusion is that Urawa and Niigata have the highest interst/attendance. Niigata being at home though makes that conclusion a little off...
     
  4. mv_nelson

    mv_nelson Member

    Jun 22, 2008
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    The last Yokohama Derby in August 2008 got 60,000 to Nissan Stadium. Being a weekday I imagine there won't be quite as many, but still. Not surprised, if it wasn't Urawa, it probably would have been Gamba, or FCT... oh, wait... ;)
     
  5. Blue and White Army

    Mipo Dockyard
    Oct 14, 2002
    Toronto
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    On NHK BS-1... so no international stream available, I assume.

    Niigata vs. Fukushima is actually a decent match to air. Fukushima won away to Ventforet Kofu last round, a J2 team that was in 5th and now in 1st. Niigata is third-bottom in the J1, so arguably they're not too different in ability from Kofu. Arguably a good chance for an upset here.

    Sanuki, on the other hand, are likely to get thrashed by Urawa.

    FC Imabari vs. Machida Zelvia would probably have been a good choice for a potential upset, given that Machida are last in J2, and Imabari knocked out the last-place J1 club last round.
     
  6. Blue and White Army

    Mipo Dockyard
    Oct 14, 2002
    Toronto
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Question: what were the biggest upsets in the history of the Emperor's Cup?

    Surely FC Imabari of the regional leagues knocking out Sanfrecce Hiroshima (then second in the J1) last round has to be one of the bigger surprises.
     
  7. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Well back in the days before the professional leagues University teams would go on and win the competition.
    But it is a long time since that has happened
     
  8. CND_MARINO

    CND_MARINO Member

    Oct 30, 2010
    Ontario
    Club:
    Yokohama F Marinos
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    According to Marinos fans an incident in training led to a face to face standoff involving Dutra, Marquihnos and Nakamachi. Also Marinos fans hung banners reminding the players of the importance of Wednesdays fixture.

    info from a fellow Marinos fan!
     
  9. artml

    artml Member

    Liverpool FC
    Ukraine
    Jul 11, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Ugh, I really longed to see the Yokohama derby.
     
  10. mv_nelson

    mv_nelson Member

    Jun 22, 2008
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    +1 to that! (obviously!)
     
  11. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Same here, as a matter of fact expected it to be on TV
     
  12. mv_nelson

    mv_nelson Member

    Jun 22, 2008
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    There was a high probability from the draw that this fixture would eventuate, they must have considered it. The only thing to consider is the impact of broadcast upon the attendance of a mid-week match. Disappointing, and I'm glad fans of other teams feel the same (it's not just Yokohama fans complaining!)
     
  13. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    For tomorrows games


    Albirex Niigata - Fukushima United

    Cerezo Osaka - Montedio Yamagata

    Fagiano Okayama - Nagoya Grampus

    Gamba Osaka - Mitto Hollyhock

    Machida Zelvia - FC Imabari

    Jubilo Iwata - Kyoto Sanga

    Kamatamare Sanuki - Urawa Red Diamonds

    Kashima Antlers - Gainare Tottori

    Kashiwa Reysol - Shonan Bellmare

    Kawasaki Frontale - Toksuhima Vortis

    Nagano Perceiro - Yokogawa Mushashino

    Omiya Ardija - Avispa Fukuoka

    Sagawa Shiga - JEF United

    Shimizu S-Pulse - Tokyo Verdy

    Vegalta Sendai - Rossao Kumamoto

    Yokohama F. Marinos-Yokohama FC


    basically all the games have a clear favourite however... the ones in "green" could be upsets imo

    imo especially Kyoto Sanga, Imabari and Yokohama FC
     
  14. Lupin III

    Lupin III Member+

    Mar 17, 2011
    Denmark
    Club:
    Brøndby IF
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Well at that times it was the big upset that company teams won the cup over the university teams :)
     
  15. Blue and White Army

    Mipo Dockyard
    Oct 14, 2002
    Toronto
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Okay then: what have been the biggest Emperor's Cup upsets since the J.League was founded?

    Is Imabari defeating Hiroshima Japan's version of Sutton United defeating Coventry City?
     
  16. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Yes of course. Imabari is not a professional football team. Sanfrecce is and is one of the best J1 teams this year as well...
    But upsets like this happen in Emperor's Cup practically every year. Ocasionally you even see some High School team making fun of some pro one and that's what I love about Emperor's Cup. It's like promoting football of all generations and all levels. It gives a chance to that especially young talented footballers to have a go against the best ones in the country.
     
  17. mv_nelson

    mv_nelson Member

    Jun 22, 2008
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Last year, Omiya going down to Fukuoka Uni? Reds went down to an amateur team one time I thought as well. Yokogawa Musashino knocking out FCT this year. Sagawa Express Tokyo SC beating Grampus 4-0 in 2001?
     
  18. artml

    artml Member

    Liverpool FC
    Ukraine
    Jul 11, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    In the second round of 2009, Reds were beaten by Matsumoto Yamaga who then played in Hokushinetsu league.

    The same year, Meiji University made it to the fourth round, beating on their way Shonan Bellmare (J2) and Montedio Yamagata (J1), both on their respective home grounds.
     
  19. karolb

    karolb Member

    Apr 16, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    also Cerezo vs Montedio will be broadcasted live + Fagi vs Grampus as record @SkaPa
     
  20. Lupin III

    Lupin III Member+

    Mar 17, 2011
    Denmark
    Club:
    Brøndby IF
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Nobody can take the fact that Matsumoto beat Reds while playing in the regionals away from them, but is it just me that suddenly doesnt feel its such a big feat. compared to the Imabari whin against Hiroshima because Matsumoto does fairly well in the J2 today?
     
  21. Hoolinmazedog

    Hoolinmazedog Member

    Dec 4, 2010
    Fukuoka
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Maybe I am still being stupidly optimistic but I think Avispa have a chance against Omiya.

    Not that we have played well for about 4 months, but we seem to be something of a bogey team to Omiya. Got 6 points against them in the League last year, after knocking them out of the Cup the year before.
    Added to being knocked out by Fukuoka University last year Omiya might not love the prospect of tonight's game.
     
  22. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Idk I think Zdenko will take this game very seriously. Sure Avispa has a chance like any team up there. But I am expecting Omiya to win to be honest
     
  23. Vendo Thefastlane

    Jul 16, 2009
    Mito, Ibaraki
    Club:
    --other--
    Funabashi Municipal high school is pretty legendary.
     
  24. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    20 minutes passes and only one game has seen a goal

    Kashiwa losing against Bellmare
     
  25. Pjdawa

    Pjdawa Member

    Jan 18, 2011
    Club:
    Gamba Osaka
    no streams anywhere,right?
     

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