The 92nd (2012) Emperor's Cup Thread

Discussion in 'Japanese Club Football' started by -Kodemari, Aug 28, 2012.

  1. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    than paste it here
     
  2. Blue and White Army

    Mipo Dockyard
    Oct 14, 2002
    Toronto
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Can't find anything. A popular Asian drama forum has a list of ways to watch Japanese streaming TV, but the two applications that offer NHK BS-1 have both been shut down. :(
     
  3. mv_nelson

    mv_nelson Member

    Jun 22, 2008
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Excellent work, Blue-San. I tweeted your image (and credited you, of course!) to get it out to more ppl.
     
  4. -Kodemari

    -Kodemari Member

    Jan 15, 2012
    Trento, Italy
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Attendance figures from Round 1:

    Matsue City-Tokuyama University - 1732
    Fagiano Okayama Next-Panasonic Tokushima - 1175
    Nara Club-Amitie SC Kyoto - 1121
    Ohzu High School-V-Varen Nagasaki - 1112
    Vanraure Hachinohe-YSCC - 880
    Kochi University-Sony Sendai - 856
    Zweigen Kanazawa-FC Kariya - 743
    Vertfee Takahara Nasu-Kashiwa Reysol - 693
    Blaublitz Akita-Heisei Intl University - 677
    Tsukuba University-FC Ryukyu - 647
    Grulla Morioka-Yokogawa Musashino - 636
    Yonago Kita High School-Volca Kagoshima - 604
    Yamanashi Gakuin University Orions-Fukushima United - 596
    Hoyo AC Elan Oita-Nagasaki Institute of Applied Science HS - 575
    Miyazaki Sangyo-Keiei University-Fukuoka University - 569
    Tonan Maebashi-Nihon University Yamagata High School - 536
    Sagawa Shiga-Kwansei Gakuin University - 492
    Saurcos Fukui-Niigata University of Management - 480
    Saga University-Kamatamare Sanuki - 425
    Suzuka Rampole-Hamamatsu University - 419
    Arterivo Wakayama-FC Gifu Second - 367
    Fukuyama University-FC Imabari - 347
    Kansai University-Toyama Shinjo Club - 287
    Sapporo University-Parceiro Nagano - 228
     
  5. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    ungrateful students, cheer for your University bastards :ninja:
     
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  6. gifu richy

    gifu richy Member

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    --other--
    I will first say that I love the Emperors Cup but...

    The thing is about the Emperors Cup in recent years is that instead of having a natural progression in advancing through the tournament (ie regional teams vs regional teams followed by regional team winners vs J2 teams followed by the winners (in most cases J2 teams) vs J1 teams etc etc)

    the system of the last couple of years has been regional teams vs J1 teams, J2 teams vs J2 teams.

    Watching J2 teams battle it out against each other is just boring, and watching Regional teams vs J1 teams just lessens the chances of upsets which is again less interesting to the average viewer.

    There will always be upsets like there is every year but the JFA just seems to not really care about the Cup anymore. Not the early stages anyway.

    As a J2 supporter I would much rather watch my team vs any regional team as opposed to another J2 team which i can see any weekend.
    And as a J1 supporter I would rather watch my team play a J2 team where I know theres a decent chance of an upset as opposed to a regional team where its a huge jump. (of course regional teams do cause upsets, but i would much rather see them build up their momentum with an upset over a J2 team and then go on to challenge a J1 team, rather than going straight into the deep end).

    Another thing is there should definitely be more games played outside of J1 venues in J2 grounds, or the odd regional/JFL team that has a decent stadium.
    A game between a J1 team and a J2 team would grab alot more attention, and not to mention better attendance figures, if the game were to be played in the J2 venue.
    Also the chances of upsets are bigger too..


    Anyway, I know it would be difficult to make some of these changes, but I just wish they would, and at the same time breathe a bit of life into the competition.
     
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  7. CND_MARINO

    CND_MARINO Member

    Oct 30, 2010
    Ontario
    Club:
    Yokohama F Marinos
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    It's more than likely a TV ratings game.
     
  8. Matsu

    Matsu Member

    Mar 28, 2001
    While still far less than perfect, from the standpoint of someone who has followed the Emperor's Cup every year since 1988 I have to say that this year they have done a better job with the organization than at any time since 2000. The big problem in the past has been the staggering of entries, so that rank amateurs have to beat - first a JFL team, then a J2 team and then sometimes ANOTHER J2 team before they can face a J1 team. Prior to 2000, every team started on the same level, so Kashima RKU High school could face Kashima Antlers in the first round. Although the J.League teams got byes through the first round this year, at least they all play in the second round.

    As Richy notes, this does have the down side of forcing a lot of J2 teams to face each other (because there are 40 J.League clubs and only 47 prefectures; cut in half by the first round). Still... it is a huge step forward (or rather, backward) towards the Tennohai dramas of old. The big problem now is just the disunited schedule - something that can only be cured by finishing the J.League season sooner.

    One other big improvement this year is regional bracketing. Though the pre-2000 versions tended to be sorted by region, it was very hit-and-miss. This year they really made a concerted effort to set up brackets that would produce matches like Reysol -vs- Reysol at Kashiwa Stadium. There are some exceptions, it is true, but that is mainly due to the "local rival" losing their match. For example, if Yamanashi Gakuin U were not so pathetic, they would have been able to play Ventforet Kofu at Kose Stadium.

    Ive spent most of the past decade bashing the JFA for their neglect of the Tennohai, so it is only proper that I give them credit for this year's effort. It may not be perfect but it is a HUGE step in the right direction.
     
  9. Matsu

    Matsu Member

    Mar 28, 2001
    By the way, Blue-san
    Here is the most "official" logo available for FC Imabari (or at least the club that sponsors them) logo.gif
     
  10. Blue and White Army

    Mipo Dockyard
    Oct 14, 2002
    Toronto
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Anyone find a stream for NHK-BS1 or Sky?
     
  11. SamuraiBlue2002

    SamuraiBlue2002 Member+

    Dec 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Damn, the Kashiwa Reysol vs Kashiwa U-18 match is not being broadcasted.

    That's the one match I really wanted to watch.
     
  12. SamuraiBlue2002

    SamuraiBlue2002 Member+

    Dec 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
  13. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
  14. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    Yes. And Sanfrecce lost against Shikoku League's FC Imabari 1-2.
     
  15. artml

    artml Member

    Liverpool FC
    Ukraine
    Jul 11, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Fukushima United defeated Ventforet Kofu, also on PKs.

    Is it just me, or all the title/promotion contenders are just not paying enough attention to the Cup?
     
  16. artml

    artml Member

    Liverpool FC
    Ukraine
    Jul 11, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    The funny (or rather stupid) thing is that now Parceiro will have to play their Round 3 clash in Sapporo. Feel for Nagano fans.
     
  17. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    WTF?
    This is huge.
     
  18. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Happens every year, really
    happens even in the FA cup

    Giant Killing :p
     
  19. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    [​IMG]

    Yokohama derby!
     
  20. CND_MARINO

    CND_MARINO Member

    Oct 30, 2010
    Ontario
    Club:
    Yokohama F Marinos
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I'm happy Marinos played majority of their starters. Really excited for the Yokohama Derby!!
     
  21. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Of course chairman wants to win it this year, perhaps he will cut his wage in half again instead of resigning after the last year debacle.
    Some interesting results, but I was hoping for some University break through, well perhaps tomorrow

    yes I am looking at you Fukuoka University


    Oh yeah and I am cheering for Blaublitz Akita, their logo and mascot are just way too cool, for me not to


    also the table now looks like this



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    P.S. Matsu thanks for the Imabari Logo, have used it
     
  22. Vendo Thefastlane

    Jul 16, 2009
    Mito, Ibaraki
    Club:
    --other--
    For those who don't know, Fukushima won with their bench team. They have a league match today in a tough league and most starters didn't make the journey yesterday. Fukushima's team that beat Kofu included 2 starters who hadn't even played in a league match.
     
  23. Blue and White Army

    Mipo Dockyard
    Oct 14, 2002
    Toronto
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada

    Aye, I hope the Flügels give the sailorboys a good stuffing!
     
  24. CND_MARINO

    CND_MARINO Member

    Oct 30, 2010
    Ontario
    Club:
    Yokohama F Marinos
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    LOL, will see about that Geriatric FC. Kazu still farting dust..
     
  25. Blue and White Army

    Mipo Dockyard
    Oct 14, 2002
    Toronto
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    D4 Fukui of the Hokushin'etsu regional league were up 0-1 away to Niigata at the half, but Niigata equalize early into the second half. 'Mon the Dinos!

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