The 2013 Table - Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Fishy Figures [R]

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  1. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
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    In a shocking turn of events that absolutely nobody could have predicted, CLB has been eliminated from playoff contention.

    SEA has been eliminated from SS contention.

    POR clinches a playoff berth.

    RSL clinches a playoff berth. (LAG, SEA and SJE cannot all reach 53 points: explanation here.)

    PHI is hanging by a thread. That thread breaks if HOU beats NYR. In fact, let's just admit it: PHI is burnt toast.
     
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  2. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    There was a very real possibility earlier this summer of the top four NWSL teams all finishing on 38pts. Good times were had, even though the NY/NJ team had to go and fall behind. Would definitely be interesting to see 5/9 in the Western conference here, though I'm an RSL fan and would love to see them get that #1 seed.
     
  3. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    A tie to the woeful Freedom in the last game of the season, if I recall. Let's hope the fate of that Kansas City team isn't matched by this Kansas City team.
     
  4. aletheist

    aletheist Member+

    Nov 17, 2010
    Olathe, Kansas, USA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would mean POR falling from 1st to 5th in just over a week; LAG would pass them by winning tomorrow night.
     
  5. Hachiko

    Hachiko The Akita on Big Soccer

    Jun 8, 2005
    Long Beach, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Comulbus Columbus, I hardly knew ye...
     
  6. Kappa74

    Kappa74 Member+

    Feb 2, 2010
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Well, it would require Seattle to actually win, so the probability is rather low. I just to see a spike in "MLS is a joke" comments over at the MLSSoccer think tank. That place is an endless source of comedy.
     
  7. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With last night's win the Rapids set season records for wins, home wins, and points, but still haven't cinched a playoff spot. If San Jose wins out the Rapids will have to win in Vancouver to clinch a playoff spot, giving them the 2nd best pts/game for a season in their history, just to qualify for the playoffs (they would also clinch if they drew and Seattle-LA, played after their game, doesn't end in a draw). Insane.
     
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  8. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Just to show how bad the bottom of the league has been this year, only 4 teams are "below 500"
     
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  9. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Chivas, Toronto, and DC have a combined -85 goal differential.
     
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  10. cjgwizard

    cjgwizard Member

    Apr 25, 2006
    LSP, section 129
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yet they could all 3 play a big part in how the playoff seeding/Supporters Shield finishes. Let's hope they can add a little excitement to the last week of the season.


    Oh, who am I kidding....
     
  11. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I just checked. Even today CLB is still burnt toast.
     
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  12. aperfectring

    aperfectring Member+

    Jul 13, 2011
    Hillsboro, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    So they aren't charcoal briquette yet?
     
  13. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Toasters are usually too well oxygenated to produce charcoal. Instead I think you end up with burnt toast dust. Yummy.
     
  14. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    I asked this earlier, but what needs to happen for the Dynamo to finish outside a playoff spot?
     
  15. aperfectring

    aperfectring Member+

    Jul 13, 2011
    Hillsboro, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Simplest situation? Lose out.
     
  16. RevvedUp10

    RevvedUp10 Member+

    Aug 10, 2010
    Watertown, Ma
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Okay, now the Revs control their own destiny.
     
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  17. aletheist

    aletheist Member+

    Nov 17, 2010
    Olathe, Kansas, USA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even if HOU wins at DCU next weekend, wins by MTL at TOR, NER at CLB, and CHI at NYR would eliminate them, unless HOU makes up its current 9-goal deficit to NER. This is now a best-case scenario for SKC, although we first need to take care of business at PHI.
     
  18. NE till i die

    NE till i die Member+

    Jun 26, 2010
    Stoughton, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All the games next weekend should be at the same time. That would be epic.
     
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  19. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Houston, we have a poblem...
     
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  20. cthomer5000

    cthomer5000 Member+

    Apr 23, 2007
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Here are Houston's playoff scenarios:

    Draw scenario (all of the following must happen)
    Houston draw
    New England loss
    Philly draw/loss

    Win scenario
    Houston win and any ONE of the following:
    Montreal draw/loss (at Toronto)
    Chicago draw/loss (at New York)
    New England draw/loss (at Columbus)
     
  21. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Houston, we have a poblem... (Episode 2)
     
  22. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    #722 AndyMead, Oct 20, 2013
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2013
    Cross-posting:
    Ignoring scenarios where teams need to make up a bunch of goals.

    New York 56 points/16W/53G wins Shield if:
    1. They beat Chicago
    2. They tie Chicago and Kansas City does not beat Philly and Los Angeles does not win out.
    3. Los Angeles, Salt Lake, Portland, and Kansas City all fail to win their remaining games.

    Kansas City 55 points/16W/45G wins Shield if:
    1. They beat Philadelphia and New York doesn't beat Chicago.

    Los Angeles 51 points/15W/52G (2 games remaining) wins Shield if:
    1. They beat San Jose and Seattle and New York does not beat Chicago and Kansas City does not beat Philly


    Portland 54 points/13W/49G wins Shield if:
    1. They beat Chivas and New York loses to Chicago and both Kansas City and Los Angeles fail to win out.

    Salt Lake 53 points/15W/55G wins Shield if:
    1. They beat Chivas and New York loses to Chicago and Kansas City does not beat Philadelphia and Portland and Los Angeles fail to win out.
     
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  23. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    So basically it all depends on Chicago to continue the streak.
     
  24. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    The Dead Goonies Update

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    I'm not sure how to describe SJE's playoff status. Technically, they have not been eliminated. Indeed, provided either COL or SEA lose next week, they really should be able to match those teams on points. So I feel like I don't want to say they're toast, let alone burnt toast. But they are burnt toast. There's no way for SJE to surpass those teams on the tiebreakers. They would lose out to SEA on wins (which is why SEA has now clinched), and they would have an impossible task making up their 12-goal deficit against COL on goals scored. They are so close, and yet so cruelly far away. Meanwhile, COL has for all intents and purposes clinched, but not technically so. Except for positioning, the Western Conference playoff race is completed.

    In the Eastern Conference, everyone is still alive except for the cellar dwelling USOC champions, TFC (the F stands for "flop"), and CLB, whose burnt toast dust is now blowing away in the wind. The story here is HOU's fall. They started the weekend in 3rd place. They end the weekend in 6th. All they did was lose a game (in rather humiliating fashion) to NYR. The good news for them is that they play the mighty DCU next weekend.

    As for the SS, only 4 teams remain in the running. With their dying breath, the noble Smurfs bumped LAG from SS contention. (Hallelujah!) Those degenerate Garfields, by contrast, handed the SS reins to NYR. (There aren't many orange cartoon characters. It was the best I could come up with.) If NYR wins their final game against CHI, the SS is theirs. I want to have faith in the Curse of Caricola, but truth is I'm terribly worried.

    As for the other contenders, POR and RSL both finish up against CHV. And SKC's final game is against PHI. But even if those teams win all their games, it'll come to nothing if NYR beats CHI. Which means ...

    Help us, Fire Wan Chicogi. You're our only hope.
     
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  25. Hachiko

    Hachiko The Akita on Big Soccer

    Jun 8, 2005
    Long Beach, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Twos up, @Knave. o_O :thumbsdown:


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