The 2012 US Presidential Race Post-Mortem

Discussion in 'Elections' started by American Brummie, Nov 7, 2012.

  1. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    The winners and losers from the polls:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/07/1158157/-Most-accurate-national-popular-vote-pollsters

     
  2. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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  3. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
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    I can buy that. When I went to the Driver's License center to get a new picture taken, there was a long, long line stretching ouside. In that line, I heard a lot of Archie Bunker looking guys who were ticked about the law, and not just because it lengthened the line.
     
  4. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    To be fair, there was some homophobia mixed in. Though the "person" who called Christie a "fat ************" might just have a weakness for alliteration.

    Might be worth bookmarking that link for the next time someone like Germanica calls it "playing the race card" when someone calls out racism in that sort of opposition to Obama.
     
  5. That Phat Hat

    That Phat Hat Member+

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    Another area where embrace of, you know, math and facts and analysis and learning new stuff, and stuff, helped Democrats: electioneering
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...urned_by_karl_rove_became_the_party_of.2.html
    When microtargeting tools made it possible to analyze the electorate as a collection of individuals rather than merely demographic and geographic subgroups, many of the most established Democratic pollsters in Washington invested in developing expertise in this new approach. Their Republican rivals, by contrast, tended to see the new tools as a threat to their business model.

    Concern that the technical supremacy of Rove and his crew would ensure the Democrats’ future as a minority party drove consultants who usually competed with one another to collaborate on previously unimaginable research projects. Major donors like George Soros decided not to focus their funding on campaigns to win single elections, as they had in the hopes of beating Bush in 2004, but instead to seed institutions committed to learning how to run better campaigns. Liberals, generally in awe of the success that Republicans had during the 1980s and 1990s in building a think-tank and media infrastructure to disseminate conservative ideas, responded by building a vast left-wing campaign research culture through groups like the Analyst Institute (devoted to scientific experimentation), Catalist (a common voter-data resource), and the New Organizing Institute (improved field tactics).

    With an eager pool of academic collaborators in political science, behavioral psychology, and economics linking up with curious political operatives and hacks, the left has birthed an unexpected subculture. It now contains a full-fledged electioneering intelligentsia, focused on integrating large-scale survey research with randomized experimental methods to isolate particular populations that can be moved by political contact.
     
  6. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

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    There's also Koch Foundation money that pays for science programming on PBS, like NOVA.
     
  7. Dyvel

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    This one's for you Dick Morris

     
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  8. dark knight

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    Sorry - I see it was me that was missing something - I assume Nate may talk about this in his post mortem discussions.
     
  9. ElJefe

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    Yeah, Victoria Jackson has been nuttier than squirrel crap for a while now.
     
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  10. Football Lover NYC

    Aug 21, 2008
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    Another Mediocre election, another Mediocre president...........pfff
     
  11. raza_rebel

    raza_rebel Member+

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  12. luftmensch

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  13. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    Awesomely mediocre post, Juve.

    Interesting article on Fox's coverage from NPR

    http://www.npr.org/2012/11/07/164576251/media-circus-fox-struggles-with-obamas-win

    The insight Fox provided was less about the election itself than the coming clash within the Republican Party. The fight would be over whether Mitt Romney was too moderate a choice, or had failed sufficiently to appeal to the minorities making up an increasing number of U.S. voters.

    After Fox News' own "Decision Desk" declared Ohio had gone to Obama, Fox News Sunday anchor Chris Wallace announced that officials with the Romney campaign called to push back, saying the margin was too small to make such a projection. A fair thing to report. Apparently the Romney folks reached out to Fox first; correspondents on other networks reflected similar complaints a bit later.​

     
  14. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

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    Loser: New York Times

    What are the odds Nate Silver is still there in 2016?
     
  15. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Why are the NYTimes losers? Silver did awesome.
     
  16. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

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    Right, his point is because Silver did awesome he may not linger at NYT.
     
  17. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    Why would Silver leave?
     
  18. luftmensch

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    Who knows, because he's a rockstar and can get more geek tail working somewhere else?
     
  19. Deep Wilcox

    Deep Wilcox BigSoccer Supporter

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    That pablum is impossible to read. This is what passes for analysis on the right? A bunch of old bigots is all they are. "Takers vs. Makers". What, please tell, did Mitt Romney ever "make"?
     
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  20. TheSlipperyOne

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    Yep, he's the only thing that kept the Times relevant this election. He's going to get a way bigger offer from somebody that the Times won't match.
     

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