Terrence Boyd signs for Borussia Dortmund II

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by smithfan, May 27, 2011.

  1. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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    You're Goddamn right I did!
     
  2. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Haha, what about the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th ranked scorers over the last 10 years? If he plays well and scores a lot of goals there will be interest.
     
  3. Bobbyho36

    Bobbyho36 Member

    Aug 8, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Josh Gatt in this discussion. (Pardon if anyone did. I didn't read back too many pages.) He went from the Austrian Second Division to a much better league after only 15 games. It's not like European managers aren't aware of what goes on there.
     
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  4. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Norwegian league is not that great. We're kind of hoping for bigger things from Boyd.
     
  5. BimmerBenz95

    BimmerBenz95 Member+

    Feb 24, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree but thankfully USMNT assistant coach Andy Herzog will be close to him in Austria since he lives there to help him out.
     
  6. Bobbyho36

    Bobbyho36 Member

    Aug 8, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, I totally agree. I just meant that if someone can make the jump from the Austrian 2nd Division to Norway than Austria is clearly scouted by managers in better leagues. Boyd can definitely make it to a better league.
     
  7. WondoSoWonderful

    May 3, 2012
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Norwegian league>A reserve team, last I checked
     
  8. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax

    How they fared after the move wasn't the topic, though. :)
     
  9. icebreaker

    icebreaker Member+

    Mar 22, 2011
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Re the Austrian league:

    The Austrian league is not regarded as a top selling league like The Netherlands for example. They mainly supply the German market (unsurprisingly). However, if Boyd impresses at an Austrian top- club, his chances to attain the interest of a top Bundesliga club are not that bad, I would say. Certainly it is better than sitting around with the Dortmund reserves.

    Generally, games between the top four Austrian clubs are not bad, but, as already mentioned the drop off to the teams behind is pretty big, as in most smaller leagues. The smaller clubs also don't have much fans, less than 5000 average attendence mostly.
     
  10. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Are there any teams this small in the German Bundesliga 2?
     
  11. __Dynamite__

    __Dynamite__ Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    Krusa (Denmark)
  12. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  13. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Combined attendance table for both leagues:
    1) Eintracht Frankfurt 37,641
    2) F. Düsseldorf 31,900
    3) Dynamo Dresden 24,848
    4) FC St. Pauli 23,220
    5) 1860 Munich 23,220
    6) E. Braunschweig 21,396
    7) A. Aachen 18,612
    8) Union Berlin 16,124
    1) Rapid Wien 15,767
    9) Karlsruhe 15,173
    10) Hansa Rostock 14,053
    11) VfL Bochum 13,756
    12) Duisburg 13,461
    13) Cottbus 11,272
    14) Greuther Fürth 10,909
    2) Sturm Graz 10,827
    15) Paderborn 10,248
    3) RB Salzburg 9,849
    16) E. Aue 9,355
    4) Austria Wien 8,227
    17) FSV Frankfurt 7,931
    18) Ingolstadt 7,563
    5) Wacker Innsbruck 6,392
    6) SV Ried 4,928
    7) SV Mattersburg 4,873
    8) Admira 4,488
    9) Wr. Neustadt 2,879
    10) Kapfenberg 2,430
     
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  14. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    As I said, it's possible that a player from Austria is signed by a club from another league. The thing is - players like Okotie have moved from being starters in the Austrian league to playing for the reserve side of clubs in Germany or Italy - which is basically the situation Boyd is already in anyway. The most talented Austrian players leave Austria at the age Boyd is going there.

    His career certainly wouldn't be over or anything, but for German players a move to Austria is generally not seen as a move forward.

    Anyway, Rapid is denying that they are close to signing Boyd in the Austrian papers today according to the transfermarkt message boards.
     
  15. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    1 - Janko left at 26, Jelavic at 25. We can sit and find anecdotes for every scenario, but the point is these moves up happen for players who compel them with fine play, just like any league.

    2 - Hmm. I wonder if an interloper is mucking it up for them.
     
  16. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Also depends on your standards of course - Janko certainly had a respectable career and all. Considering that he's one of the hyped up new players de jour in Germany at the moment this wouldn't be all that remarkable however. Of course I'm well aware that for American players in Europe there's a somewhat different standard still, compared to German prospects (and I really hope that doesn't sound condescending, that's not what I intended).

    The quote from Rapid is "He's one of the players we are looking at, nothing more", fwiw.
     
  17. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
  18. SoccerKowboy

    SoccerKowboy BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 13, 2007
    Virginia, USA
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To put a YA context around a potential Austrian move, how have previous Yanks done after playing in Austria? I can only think of three, I'm sure there are more. Probably would me most useful to limit to field players. The three below happen to be forwards.

    Josh Gatt (Altach, Austrian 2nd tier) - Transferred(?) to Molde in Norway
    Nate Jaqua (Altach, Austrian 1st tier) - Released, signed with Houston Dynamo in MLS
    Preston Zimmerman (Kapfenberger, Austrian 1st tier) - Released, signed amateur contract with Mainz II in Germany
     
  19. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah Gatt was bought by Molde (low transfer fee, not sure what it was).

    Seth Moses is at Altach right now if memory serves, but I can't think of any more. I think Kei Kamara played there, but he's not a Yank and he went back to MLS.
     
  20. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You are thinking of Joseph Ngwenya
     
  21. Rainer24

    Rainer24 Member

    Jan 6, 2008
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I lived in Austria for a couple years. It is a small country where the national sport is skiing. If he goes there, even to one of the bigger Austrian clubs, it will be up to him how good of a player he wants to be, just as in any other league. He's young enough that it could be a decent place to play for a year or two to get some experience under his belt. His real goal should be to be back in Germany in no more than two years, IMO. If he scores goals there, it will happen. The majority of the Austrian national team is pulled from the Vienna clubs, Salzburg, and German clubs, with a good number coming from Rapid, if I'm not mistaken, so he'd see decent competition in training and a few tough games per season within the league. I don't think that's a terrible situation for a player his age.
     
  22. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
  23. banbaseball

    banbaseball Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    East of the Bay
    I imagine you could've done this too but here's google translate's take, not much new:

     
  24. Deeneaus

    Deeneaus Member+

    Aug 29, 2007
    America/Deutschland
    Club:
    Arminia Bielefeld
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Although you have to decipher the Google translate, it's on point. The end just talks about how Dortmund was prepared for this, and have a bunch of other prospects to fill his place.
     
  25. icebreaker

    icebreaker Member+

    Mar 22, 2011
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    They are just directly quoting the Austrian source that has already been discussed on this thread. No new information, just some stuff about how Dortmund has already prepared for the eventuality of Boyd leaving.
     

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